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»What scene from Matrix Reloaded was the most important one?«

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What scene from Matrix 2 was the most important for you?

Neo and the Architect
57%
 57%  [ 114 ]
The highway chase
1%
 1%  [ 3 ]
Rave dance and Morpheus' speech in Zion
1%
 1%  [ 3 ]
Meeting the Merovingian and fighting in the castle
6%
 6%  [ 12 ]
Councillor Hamann talks with Neo at Zion's machine level
4%
 4%  [ 8 ]
Burly brawl: Neo fights against dozens of Smiths
6%
 6%  [ 13 ]
On the way to the Architect: Power plant fights, corridor fights
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
Neo fights Seraph and meets the Oracle
2%
 2%  [ 5 ]
Neo (returned from Architect) flies like hell and resurrects Trinity
7%
 7%  [ 14 ]
Neo (returned from Architect) talks to Morpheus and stops the sentinels
12%
 12%  [ 25 ]
Total Votes : 199
 
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What scene from Matrix Reloaded was the most important one?  

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i chose that the scene of when neo stops the sentienials is most important because neo knew that it was different than what was supposed to happen.

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Architect scene. Everything we knew and know about the Matrix was, is, and will be pivoted by this scene. The fact that every single word that the Architect has multiple meanings makes it kind of the driving point of the movies, because things can go either way. I guess the best way to compare it is with Vader telling Luke that he is his father in The Empire Strikes Back. That scene completely changed the first movie and made an emotional impact on the third. This will probably be the same with Revolutions.

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I don't know what is the most important, but my favourite bit in Reloaded is from when Neo, Morpheus and Trinity find the keymaker until the end of the highway scene. It's the best half hour (ish) of any film.

Well that's my opinion, anyway!

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On the way to the Architect: Power plant fights, corridor fights
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That is the most important part, getting to the arhitect.
There are so many factors making Neo's chances so small:

"...and if one fails, all fail" (the oracle)

3 crews on 3 different missions...

i even played the game Enter the Matrix , and the power plant mission is the hardest and the best, Niobe killing a lot of people, and being chased by an agent at the end, and jumping from the building miliseconds before it explodes...

Notagain Don't you just love how Trinity jumps from one building from another, kills security guards, even fights an agent

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Forgotten:

1. Neo talks with The Oracle before Burly Brawl
2. Smith's monologue before Burly Brawl

Judging by the results of the poll, the conversation between Neo and Hamann was way underestimated. At the end of Revolutions, we see that everything that he said was the key to how the whole trilogy was going to unfold.

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How so, oscargabrielp. How so?

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Councillor Hamann: That you are, in fact, still human. Have you ever been to the enginering level? I love to walk there at night, it's quite amazing. Would you like to see it?
Neo: Sure.
Councillor Hamann: Almost no one comes down here, unless, of course, there's a problem. That's how it is with people - nobody cares how it works as long as it works. I like it down here. I like to be reminded this city survives because of these machines. These machines are keeping us alive, while other machines are coming to kill us. Interesting, isn't it? Power to give life, and the power to end it.
Neo: We have the same power.
Councillor Hamann: I suppose we do, but down here sometimes I think about all those people still plugged into the Matrix and when I look at these machines, I.. I can't help thinking that in a way, we are plugged into them.
Neo: But we control these machines, they don't control us.
Councillor Hamann: Of course not, how could they? The idea's pure nonsense, but... it does make one wonder just... what is control?
Neo: If we wanted, we could shut these machines down.
Councillor Hamann: Of course... that's it. You hit it! That's control, isn't it? If we wanted, we could smash them to bits. Although if we did, we'd have to consider what would happen to our lights, our heat, our air.
Neo: So we need machines and they need us. Is that your point, Councillor?
Councillor Hamann: No, no point. Old men like me don't bother with making points. There's no point.
Neo: Is that why there are no young men on the Council?
Councillor Hamann: Good point.
Neo: Why don't you tell me what's on your mind, Councillor?
Councillor Hamann: There is so much in this world that I do not understand. See that machine? It has something to do with recycling our water supply. I have absolutely no idea how it works. But I do understand the reason for it to work. I have absolutely no idea how you are able to do some of the things you do, but I believe there's a reason for that as well. I only hope we understand that reason before it's too late.

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wow what a waste of space. that conversation is completley pointless. the only part of that that matters at all is

I have absolutely no idea how you are able to do some of the things you do, but I believe there's a reason for that as well. I only hope we understand that reason before it's too late.[quote

wow. pointless. wow.

sorry if im being blunt.[/quote]

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Actually, if you had just a little "less yardage between the goalposts", you could perfectly understand that the most important part of this whole conversation is this:

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Councillor Hamann: Of course not, how could they? The idea's pure nonsense, but... it does make one wonder just... what is control?
Neo: If we wanted, we could shut these machines down.
Councillor Hamann: Of course... that's it. You hit it! That's control, isn't it? If we wanted, we could smash them to bits. Although if we did, we'd have to consider what would happen to our lights, our heat, our air.
Neo: So we need machines and they need us. Is that your point, Councillor?
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This is what it all comes down to. Machines and humans coexisting.

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i think the most important one is where the ghostbusters come out and kill everyone with tuna cans..i think..i feel asleep and missed part of the movie..was wesley snipes in the matrix? Thumbdown

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damn i stumped all you guys! Whitelaugh

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If it comes to viewing-enjoyment Burly Brawl is the most important for me. Especially at the beginning Keanu's moves are so pure. On second place the freeway and third place the chateau-fight which was also very impressive.

If it comes to story-enjoyment then most defenitely the scene at the Architect is most important for me.
On second place the dialogue between Neo and the Oracle and third place Mero's explanation of causality.

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I could depend on wether the scene

a.) looked important but wasn't
b.) looked important and was
c.) Looked great and was important
d.) looked grat but was useless

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I think the 3 - 4 minute fight scene between Neo and all The Smiths is the greatest bit of filmaking I've scene. I could watch the sequence even if it were 30 minutes long.

Kicks major astericks!

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huh it seems everyone voted for the architect....i love the cheatue fight its awsome....

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oscargabrielp wrote:


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Councillor Hamann: Of course not, how could they? The idea's pure nonsense, but... it does make one wonder just... what is control?
Neo: If we wanted, we could shut these machines down.
Councillor Hamann: Of course... that's it. You hit it! That's control, isn't it? If we wanted, we could smash them to bits. Although if we did, we'd have to consider what would happen to our lights, our heat, our air.
Neo: So we need machines and they need us. Is that your point, Councillor?
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This is what it all comes down to. Machines and humans coexisting.

I agree with you .. Although the scene with architect tells us a lot of new things .. ansewers many .. and of course raises more questions ...
I believe Hamman gave Neo an idea of machines and humans signing a truce.

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All the choices listed above kicked butt. The scene that started it off for me and got me hunkering down and not wanting to blink was the first fight Neo has with the new "upgraded" agents. The music starts it off, and along with the choreography and set ,the scene was amazing. You just know they're gonna get whalloped. It follows a rather silent first two-three scenes, and so the set-up before that scene helped as well. After that the action doesn't let up.

I completely missed the symbology of the crashing lamplight at the end of that scene. It keeps sticking in my mind but I haven't a clue as to what it was referencing. Any ideas anyone?

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councillor hamann, HANDS DOWN

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I voted the Architect because it tests all that Neo has believed so far.

Plus he has a cool remote.

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Maybe its a chick thing, but I loved, absolutely loved, the opening scene in M2 when Trinity, after falling 100' off her Ducati, makes a simply exquisite landing that stays in my mind's eye 2 years later, and then beats the heck out of a couple of guys, and then goes and does her day job thingy.

That scene kept me coming back to watch M2 over and over again 2 summers ago. It also kept me going to the gym and ( bows head in humble pride) made me get my bike license
( hence my new and improved name)

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Neo's talk with the Architect was almost the point of the whole movie.

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I think the scene with the Architect was the most important because the consequences, which no one knew, were laid out and Neo was forced to make a choice. But, I still thought Neo saving Trinity was just as important because had she died, he would have never made it to the machine city in Revolutions.

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The 2 most important (after watching rev.) are the architect scene, and the "stopping the squiddies" scene ....

But, as we saw in M3, the second didn't really change anything (though indirectly it gives Neo the ability to go to the Machine City)

So the architect scene IS the most important (because it explains quite a lot)

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the acritect scene, the reasomn why is because it really goes indeath in the matrix, on really how old it is, previous ones and zion, so really this was a crewshall scene.

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