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tozy wrote:

I guess you can say it is me who WAS debating with her. It is getting pointless... Do you think I was too harsh on her?

i think you put across very valid points which were pretty much ignored

the bbc are supposed to have interviewed sophia stewart...the bbc are the biggest broadcasting company on the planet...they have no affiliation to the privately owned time warner AOL...yet they have mentioned nothing on the case

i guess that says everything that needs to be said

found this

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Stewart is currently having discussions with CBS about a possible exclusive story and has several media engagements in the near future to nationally publicize her victory.

from here

holy_of_holies wrote:

Ich liebe deutsche Mädchen! Hochladen Sie eine Fotographie... Ich verspreche, ich bin nicht ein "stalker."

Isn't my avatar enough of a pic?

holy_of_holies wrote:

Ich bin über den Krieg und unseren Präsidenten traurig! Ich wählte nicht für Bush. Sein Bruder "Jeb" lebt im Tallahassee, wo ich lebe. Er ist der Gouverneur von Florida. Ich hasse ihn auch.

Hehe,... you guys assume that we Germans are all against Bush and the Irak war?...
You are right,...well....for the most part....

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the anomaly wrote:

i think you put across very valid points which were pretty much ignored

She couldn't stand her ground firmly...


Have you seen that Hannilie has updated her link-section?

daghettotymz.com...
and
sophiastewart.unn13.com...
next to eachother?

They give pretty contradicting information...
What is this? Poor research?



Two more interesting quotes:

The brothers used as much of the material as they could, before the story department at Warner’s allegedly changed features while preserving the heart of the Epic, in order to protect themselves of being held libel. Credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers have come forward claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski brothers. The witnesses also add that the original work of Stewart had been seen, and often used during preparation of the motion picture.
daghettotymz.com...

and:

SUZANNE: Copyright is a huge part of doing graphics, I have to get everything cleared: names and towns and artwork and references all have to get cleared before we’re allowed to actually get them printed.

MATRIX: Who is responsible for that?

SUZANNE: The Clearance Department at Warner Bros. in America. We send off an email with all the artwork in there asking if it is okay to use it, and saying where I got everything from. I ask if I can I use this work, if I can create this business name, if I can create this street name etc, and they say, yes, no, yes, yes, and then you’ve got your list of what you can use.
whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com...

holy_of_holies wrote:

All these sites reference each other in the attempt to create the illusion that there is some sort of reality to the accusations. This is called circular referencing. A similar tactic was used by the Nazis when they were building their "case" against the Jews (Protocols of the Elders of Zion, etc.) If anything, these sites are damaging Stewart's credibility before a jury and convincing the online community (minus the cranks) that what is really going on here is a vendetta. I don't understand why I am the only one around here who consistently opposes this tactic and Stewart in general. She will lose her lawsuit, and if she hadn't gone to the online community and started making outrageous claims, she might have gotten a handsome settlement just to shut up about her delusions of grandeur. As it stands now, the defendants will probably file a countersuit for libel, and she will lose her shirt. Bottom line: Stewart is both stupid and crazy at the same time!

The thing is she is accusing them of theivery why would and more importantly why SHOULD they settle on that?

if someone accused YOU of stealing would you settle IF you didn't actually do it?

alex_the_droog wrote:

The thing is she is accusing them of theivery why would and more importantly why SHOULD they settle on that? if someone accused YOU of stealing would you settle IF you didn't actually do it?

That's just the way corporations and people with a high media profile work these days.

It's easy to extort money by claiming theft or racism or something like that. I sympathize with your idealism totally, but I imagine Stewart could still have gotten a settlement if she hadn't gone berserk on them.

holy_of_holies wrote:

That's just the way corporations and people with a high media profile work these days. It's easy to extort money by claiming theft or racism or something like that. I sympathize with your idealism totally, but I imagine Stewart could still have gotten a settlement if she hadn't gone berserk on them.

I don't think so....I used to work for a law firm and I don't ever remember them asking their clients to settle in case where false accusations have been made.

You settle only when there's some validity (no matter how small) and you want to avoid that coming out.

Hell if thats the case then I'll file a suit against Warners Bros. tomorrow and settle for a few thousand dollars (Lord knows I could use it) Settling with a supposed nutcase who came out of left field because she claimed that stole work she sent them 20 YEARS ago but has NO evidence sets a bad precedent that NO business wants.

Thats the thing that matrix fanatics keep saying "she's trying to extort money"... "she should have settled rather than go to trial" IF she has absolutely NO evidence then how could she extort anyone? IF the studio is willing to offer a settlement in the first place then they must have done SOMETHING wrong.

sophia has actually personally replied in one of the links in this thread...the african-institute debate

check it out

the anomaly wrote:

sophia has actually personally replied in one of the links in this thread

asp.african-institute.org...

As opposed to Sophia Stewart, of whom I haven't seen but a few very old pictures and heard a voice that could be anyone's, Hannilie Zulu is a known writer who has a reputation to loose. (kachaka.com...)
For that reason I addressed her several times about the case and she readily answered, always from the position of the observer.
But when I started pressing her for a statement by herself about provable facts, rather than the usual quoting Sophia Stewart (she claims to be writing a book about the case in cooperation with Mrs. Stewart; she should know)...

Quote:

Hannilie, I didn't ask you to show me the evidence. All I am asking of you is to make a statement whether or not evidence exists that the following claims are true: 1. There was an ad by the Wachowskis back in 1986 2. Sophia sent her script to the Wachowskis

...she dodged me by giving us what I believe to be a collection of quotes from Mrs. Stewart. When being pressed personally further, she retreaded fully from the discussion, giving me a pretty lame excuse.

Let's see if she will come back and reply to you....


And, Anomaly,.... how DARE you say that "starwars has infinitely more scope than the matrix"? ()

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And, Anomaly,.... how DARE you say that "starwars has infinitely more scope than the matrix"? (Wink)

oops...my bad

but it in reality it does simply because it isn't limited to essentially 2 worlds...which themselves are restrained by (ironically) the laws which govern them.

asp.african-institute.org... wrote:

Gary Drumund or Rabbecca. You write at the Matrix-Explained.com that you gave me a tough time at AfriDAD...good one. Yet, I am also wondering why you removed the Larry Wachowski's 16th July divorce declaration. It stood to save the fact about the brothers claims in all what they said. Why did you or would you take such credible info down? Will you be truthful enough and put it up again? Waiting. Hannilie Zulu

@holy if you love German girls, so why not book a flight to get over there

courthousenews.com...

“Finally, Stewart contends that she has raised a triable issue of fact regarding the Matrix defendants’ access because FBI agents purportedly told her in 2001 that their investigation of her criminal copyright claim had „established (her) as the writer of the movie “The Matrix” and “The Terminator”” (…) Stewart again attempts to rely on an unauthenticated one-page FBI-form, which does not indicate that it concerns Stewart’s claim, and which contains a single handwritten comment: “Looks like a 295 E case”. Stewart also asserts that FBI special agent John Barros told her Matrix 1 was edited to remove an introduction allegedly copied from her work. Stewart’s hearsay statements concerning remarks purportedly made by FBI agents are not admissible. (…) The FBI document is likewise inadmissible, as it is unauthenticated.

(…)

„Stewart has likewise adduced no admissible evidence from which a reasonable trier of fact could conclude that her works were available to any person or entity involved in the creation or production of he Matrix films.

(…)

„As respects the Matrix films, Stewart has admitted that Matrix 1 is neither strikingly nor substantially similar to her treatment and the 47-page manuscript”
(same goes for Matrix 2 and 3)
“She has also admitted that the protectable expression in “The Third Eye” is not substantially similar to the protectable expression in Matrix 1,2, and 3, and that the Wachowskis independently created Matrix 1,2 and 3.

(…)

Similarily, Stewart’s mail fraud against the Wachowskis fail because HER ADMISSION THAT THE PURPORTED ADVERTISEMENT DOES NOT EXIST conclusively establishes that there was no use of the mails by those defendants.”

tozy wrote:

asp.african-institute.org... wrote: Gary Drumund or Rabbecca. You write at the Matrix-Explained.com that you gave me a tough time at AfriDAD...good one. Yet, I am also wondering why you removed the Larry Wachowski's 16th July divorce declaration. It stood to save the fact about the brothers claims in all what they said. Why did you or would you take such credible info down? Will you be truthful enough and put it up again? Waiting. Hannilie Zulu

first off...a journalist and writer making such infantile spelling mistakes...or do i smell a rat?

second...divorce declaration?...removing information?...what are you talking about you fool?...i am neither a moderator here or at the african-institute site...so if anyone has been removing information then it would be hanille

Welcome back "the anomaly".

Long time no see. I always enjoyed your visits!

the you very much mobil_ave...i've been extremely busy in the real world as of late and a major computer malfunction few months ago meant some time offline

when i reformatted and got the thing up and running again i totally forgot to put mx back into my favourites folder and forgot about it

are you the only old veteran left?

It seems like that yes.

Sometimes I miss the old days mate!