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Neo: "Tell me how I stopped 4 sentinels by thinking it..."
Oracle: "The power of the One extends beyond this world. It reaches from here all the way back to where it came from: The Source."

It is obvious that the matrix uses the theoretical theories of higher dimensions in the movies. I just watched the end of Matrix Reloaded and Neo removes the bullet from Trinity after she is shot. He then puts his hand in her and jumpstarts her heart to bring her back to life. I remember when I first saw this movie, this scene like many, pissed me off. How can Neo, even if he is "the one" do something that is physically impossible? Neo is human, and humans cannot just reach through flesh! Not possibe Neo!

The answer is Neo cannot do this physically impossible feat in three spatial dimensions. But, Neo can do it quite easily if he is in the 5th dimension, or rather the 4th spatial dimension. Our human brains cannot quite fathom a 4th spatial dimension but the idea is everywhere in the Matrix! (and since Reloaded is the one i've seen recently it is the only one I can give examples for). When Neo fight off the Merivingian's henchman he opens a door that leads him to the mountains. If Neo were in a hypercube (and I really think he is), he could open doors that would lead him anywhere. A hypercube is a 4th spatial dimensional cube, one that human brains cannot visualize. If you were a two dimensional being you could not visualize what a cube looks like, so the same is for humans (three dimensional) and a hypercube, you just can't picture it, but its there!

In the very next scene, we have the twins. How can the twins do what they do? How can the turn into "ghosts"? They are able to operate in the 5th dimension (4th spatial, normally the 4th dimension is time). When I first saw Reloaded, these twins also pissed me off, because being able to walk through anything, it can't happen. Guess what? In upper dimensions, you can walk through anything! Just like Neo reaching his hand through Trinity's body.

I offer two additional explanations for the events when Neo goes to visit the Architect. First of all, when Neo opens the door to the Architect, he is transported somewhere, how? I really think this is a wormhole. A wormhole makes it possible for you to travel across vasts distances instantaneously, in and out of the Universe and quite possibly to other universes. In addition, you travel into different times (it doesn't appear they go into time in the scene though). What makes me think this is a wormhole? Two things, the first being that after Neo opens the door, it shows him being transported into what looks like another galaxy (universe?). Secondly, when Neo leaves, he is blasted "faster than (whatever his name is) has ever seen anyone travel". The explosion is tremendous. To open a wormhole, you would need a Quadrillion times the amount of energy we can produce on Earth today. The explosion and the speed of Neo makes me think it is a wormhole Neo is traveling in.

When Neo is with the Architect, there are an infinite amount of Neos on the screens. I think these Neos are supposed to represent choice, and the many amount of choices he can make and has made the 5 previous visits to the Architect, but I offer a different explanation. If Neo were in a hypercube there could be an infinite number of Neos which is confusing, but I'm almost positive this is what is happening. The Architect operates in higher dimensions, like Neo begins to do, and like the twins can do. He tells Neo that the problem with the original Matrix is he designed it too perfectly, and that a mind less than his had to change it (he also scoffs at Neos idea that this is the Oracle).

Finally, back to where we started,
Neo: "Tell me how I stopped 4 sentinels by thinking it..."
Oracle: "The power of the One extends beyond this world. It reaches from here all the way back to where it came from: The Source."
Okay, so like there are hypercubes, there are hyperdoughnuts. If Neo were in a hypercube that is shaped like a doughnut, it could appear like this. An infinite number of Neos, in infinite single file lines, with infinite Neos to the left and right of each Neo. If there was a Neo to the left and right of Neo, the original Neo could reach out and grab the hands of the Neo to the left and right of him. Naturally all the other Neos in the hyper doughnut would do the same thing. But what is actually happening? In actuality when Neo grabs the hand of the one to the left and right of him respectively, he is grabbing his own hands! Because, the doughnut is spherical, it goes back to the source, his own hands! Looking at the ending like this, it is still confusing (and I've confused my own self!), but it becomes a bit more clear. Neo is no longer operating in the three dimensional universe, he is "beyond this world" in a higher dimension (like why he can fly). See, Neo being a human still can't visualize the hypercube he is operating in, but the Oracle can.

I am going to stop now because I'm realizing I really need to see Revolutions again, and study up more on my physics. To be continued...

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Those are good and probably valid points. But I thought the reason Neo could do all the things you mentioned flying, bringing Trinity back, moving at the speed of light was due to the fact that they're in a computer system. The Matrix isn't real anything is possible in the Matrix especially for Neo since he is the 'One'. I can't explain how he stops the four sentinals in the 'real world' but I can explain the Twins being able to turn into ghosts. They're programs created by the Merovingian to serve him. So he obviously can give them special powers (why not give them 'One' like powers Tripleconfused). But maybe not powers like the anomaly possess.

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Jermaine101 wrote:

I can explain the Twins being able to turn into ghosts. They're programs created by the Merovingian to serve him. So he obviously can give them special powers (why not give them 'One' like powers Tripleconfused). But maybe not powers like the anomaly possess.


The scenes mentioned by Reimann would definately have taken place inside the matrix.

Then again, doesn't the Matrix have inbuilt rules about gravity, physics, etc.? If it didn't, plugged-in humans would be able to do all kinds of wierd things that aren't possible in the real world.

But then, if the machines knew about the existence of hypercubes and wormholes in the real world, wouldn't they also try to simulate even these obscure forces to heighten the realism of the Matrix?

In that case, the renegade programs such as Smith, the Merovingian and Neo (The One) could make use of these rules. Thus they could do 'super-human' things in the Matrix, while at the same time conforming to the rules of the system.

Just one question I had about the 'heart-pumping' scene, if Neo's hand can go through any object (because it's multi-dimensional), then why didn't it go straight through Trin's heart as well, rather than grasping it? Is Neo able to somehow bend the laws of physics and penetrate some objects but not others?

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Reimann wrote:

See, Neo being a human still can't visualize the hypercube he is operating in, but the Oracle can.


Your explanation seems to have a ring of truth to it.

The only problem I have is that it doesn't seem to fit the Oracle's personality, or pattern of behaviour, to be that specific in her responses to Neo.

For example in M1, Morpheus tells Neo: "Try not to see it that way. She's a guide". Watching the Oracle herself makes this apparent. Her responses are deliberately vague and abstract. It's not her job to tell Neo the specifics of what the Matrix is, who he is, what The One is, etc. etc. She just acts as a guide.

If you're Neo and you want a specific answer to a "knowledge" question, the Architect is the man, as can easily be seen in his complex and detailed dialog with Neo (in Reloaded).

Which makes me wonder why Neo asked the Oracle for such pragmatic information in the first place. And why he didn't question the Architect more -- I would have had at least 10 questions to ask him.

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Interesting theory, Reinman, though I have not understood everything.

Even if the matrix is a simulation, it is not impossible that the logic of the hypercube that Reinman just explained is still valid but in the context of the program's rules.

For example, a program can simulate an hypercube, and maybe that the way the program ruling the matrix works is similar to the hypercube's principles.

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Apocryphe wrote:


For example, a program can simulate an hypercube, and maybe that the way the program ruling the matrix works is similar to the hypercube's principles.


Or maybe there's no such thing as a hypercube in the real world -- it's just a glitch in the Matrix

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I'm sorry, this is one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. You say Neo can't reach through Trinity because she's made of flesh. Except, you see, she's not. She's not anything, Neo understands that and ergo can reach thru it. It has nothing to do with another dimension. That's impossible, because that dimension would have to be programmed by the machines, my gosh how stupid are you? He can do all that stuff the same way the kid became a magician in Nightmare on Elmstreet. It's a dream. Geez.

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Exactly Darius, it's a dream. And Neo can do almost whatever he wants in this CG dream, like jumpstart Trinity's heart and fly and so on, because he can bend the rules more than anyone else. I wouldn't call Reimann stupid, it was an interesting post.

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the reason why neo can defeat machines in the real world is.

in the first movie you will hear mouse say to the crew that neo's tele kinetics are way above normal.
tele kinetics is the power to control things by thought and to read minds..
this is totally crap tho

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yours is the most logical theory.

the sentinel scene is explained FLAWLESSLY.
also the w bros mentioned that they would include something about the string theory(10 dimensional universe)

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To the OP, nice commentary and plausible arguments to address some obvious issues. I hope you add to this post once you have revisted the 'Revolutions' movie.
As regards Neo manipulating Trinity's heart, well that is simple if you consider that everything inside the Matrix is just code. Even Trinity's RSI is a collection of code and so Neo being the One and having complete mastery over the code can pierce the 'shell' of her RSi and manipulate the code that represents her virtual heart. Her digital self responds to this (the old tenet about "your mind makes it real") and cascades back through her connection to the Matrix and her 'real' body aboard the hovercraft.
Being currently immersed in the MAtrix Online experience and delving deeply down the rabbit hole, I have learned directly from Exiles and Redpills inside the MAtrix that the codestream can, has been and will continue to be manipulated in infinite ways by those with the correct knowledge. Neo obviously exhibited this ability while reviving Trinity.

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Reimann wrote:

Neo: "Tell me how I stopped 4 sentinels by thinking it..."


What is really needed here to answer the question is to have paid carefull attention to the wordings during all three movies, comprehending it as a sequence of events.

To give you an idea of what I mean, you will all know that in ETM, Neo himself does not have any idea why Morpheous wants to meet him.

He does not beleive he is the one at first. He even goes so far as to tell Trinity he isnt the one. Morpheous pushes Neo to his limits, enticing from him the set of beliefs necessary to be able to do the stuff he can do in the Matrix. "Do you really think thats air you are breathing"... and "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" - Morpheous.

To these instances Neo replies "I know what you are trying to do" however Morpheous doesnt TRY anything, he does or doesnt, he NEVER TRIES. He knows that the word try implies failure and as everyone will agree, Morpheous is the kind of guy who speaks deliberately choosing his words carefully with a precision that all of us would enjoy utilising.

Over timelets Neos mind start to accept the fact that he is indeed "The One".... "He is begining to believe" - Morpheous.

Later during the trilogy, there is a refererence ( I think during the talk with the architect ) that the journey (back to the source) has altered Neos conciousness.

Neo is able to do the things he does because he has choice, he is the anomaly and the problem is choice, he can choose to fly etc and he can choose that because his consciousness has altered from all the previous stuff like going to the oracle "sorry kid, you have the gift, but it looks like you're waiting for something" (to a guy that believes he makes his own destiny, would you want to be told this and not act on it) And the only way Neo can do all the things he does is because of HIS MIND.

Choice - make up your mind....

Neos mind becomes altered through his experiences in the matrix. This is why he can stop the sentinels outside of the matrix later.
Anyways enough yarn for now. Anybody supporting this theory can let me know.

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Hey i was just browsing this site to brush up a few facts and theories i was unclear on. I couldnt help but notice that people seem to perseive the role of the one in a different way to me.
The one exists because the machines needed to give the zionists hope inorder to follow the proffecy, the lie created as another form of control. When he completes the proffecy and reaches the source, he completes the role of the one as a representative for the human race to make the choice on the destruction of the speices or the rebooting of the matrix and rebuilding of zion.
This is my point that everyone else seems the be avoiding:
THE ONE IS PART MACHINE
The archetect reveals this at the end of reloded. Saying the he has 'been altered by the process' of becoming the one and was designed to have a 'profound attatchement to the human race' inorder to make the choice.
Therefore the is perfectly logical that he has such manipulation over the matrix compared to his companions. He can also manipulate the sentinals using this connection though this exausts him due to the fact this is not how the one was ment to function. This is also how how he can see smith after he is blind, his machine connection reading him as a program and forwarding his location (im still a little shakey on this part but hey its just a movie).
Feel free to fill in the gaps if someone can explain better than me.

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One has to distinguish between the Matrix and the real world. Neo's pwers inside the Matrix obviously come from his ability to manipulate the code and bend or break the rules more than other redpills or most programs can do.

Outside the Matrix, he is just an ordinary human being. Most explanations i've read so far about stopping the sentinals are very 'spiritual' and 'transcendental'. Therefore, Reimann's explanations are quite interesting. He is trying to give it some scientific touch. Thumbup

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Oh but what about this:
Neo: "Tell me how I stopped 4 sentinels by thinking it..."
Oracle: "The power of the One extends beyond this world. It reaches from here all the way back to where it came from: The Source."
Basicly saying that neo has power over the machines in both the matrix and the machine world. Also when neo becomes blind as far as i can remember he can only see machine, he sees this as light ('its like the entire city is made of light'), which also suports this.

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