»and for those confused on the Matrix Revolutions....«

The essay below forms the third part of an essay I submitted to this forum earlier titled “the matrix trilogy explained (2)’, but considering that it was a bit of a long read, I’ve decided to split the essay up according to the titles of the movies.

The interpretation of The Matrix Revolutions that follows is based on evidence provided in the dialogue. Here and there I may go out on a limb, but I have tried to keep myself within limits of wild speculation by sticking to what people say in the movie or what we see happen on screen.

I’ve also written the essay in movie chronology to help ‘play out the scene’ for you as I explain my views and theories. I may make cross-references to other scenes here and there, but for the most part, I’ve tried to stick to the chronology of the movie. This not only makes for an entertaining read, but also makes for an easy way to get to grips with some of the more complex issues brought up in the movies.


The Matrix Revolutions Explained

The connection between Neo and Smith seems to have transcended beyond the world of the Matrix and into the real world. Because Bane has become Smith’s avatar in the real world, the connection that Neo and Smith have in the world of the Matrix is transcribed into some connection between Bane and Neo in the real world. It is no coincidence that Neo and Bane are lying opposite each other in the sickbay at the same time with their bodies stuck in the real world but with their minds elsewhere.
Neo’s attempt to connect with the Sentinels caused his mind to become trapped in a place that is later described as a place between the machine world and the world of the Matrix. Bane’s attempt to blow the EMP aboard the Hammer also caused Bane’s mind to become separated from his body into a state of coma. Since the connection between Smith and Neo in the world of the Matrix is primarily anchored within the realm of consciousness, the connection between Bane and Neo in the real world is also anchored within the realm of consciousness.
While trapped in Mobil Ave, Neo encounters a program family that is heading for the Matrix. He learns that they made a deal with the Frenchman to get their daughter under the care of the Oracle. They speak of Love and Karma and Neo seems surprised that programs from the machine world can feel such strong human emotion and develop such strong spiritual awareness. Ramakandra tells Neo that his daughter Sati is a program “without purpose in this world” and that she otherwise would have faced the same fate as all programs without purpose: deletion or a return to the Source.
After the program family is picked up by the Train Man, Neo has another one of his visions in which he sees himself flying over three power lines. The vision offers a hint of the decision the Oracle wants Neo to make. Neo’s previous vision of Trinity falling was also meant to ‘guide’ Neo to the eventual decision the Oracle wanted him to make: to choose the left door to prevent a new Matrix Reload by saving Trinity. This time, the vision hints towards a journey to the Machine City although Neo cannot see beyond that moment because he does not yet understand why he has come to make that choice.
Meanwhile, Morpheus and Trinity meet with the Oracle to find out where Neo is. The Oracle tells them that he is stuck in a train station that is run by a program called the Train Man to smuggle people in and out of the Matrix. The Train Man is revealed as working for the Merovingian, again suggesting that the Merovingian is some sort of rogue-program running in the world of the Matrix with strong ties to the machine world. The Oracle sends Seraph along with Morpheus and Trinity in their search for the Train Man to negotiate Neo’s release. After the Train Man manages to escape, they decide to go and see the Merovingian for a second attempt.
During their negotiation, the Merovingian tells them that in exchange for their “savior”, he wants “something I’ve wanted since the very beginning: the eyes of the Oracle”. Since all the Merovingian wants is more power, the Oracle’s vision could prove to be a powerful tool and a valuable asset in determining the how and why of causality. Trinity makes another deal with the Merovingian and all the while Persephone is in awe and admiration of how much Trinity is willing to sacrifice for her love for Neo. After Trinity picks Neo up from Mobil Ave, Neo decides to go and see the Oracle one last time.
During their conversation, the Oracle repeats what she said to Neo earlier: “no-one, and I mean no-one, can see beyond the choices they don’t understand”. One way or the other Neo is going to have to face deletion –whether it be death in the realm of humans (Zion), deletion in the realm of programs (the Matrix) or deconstruction in the realm of machines (the Machine City). After long contemplation, Neo later says “I’m sorry, time is always against us” when he comes to his final decision to “go to the Machine City”, because it is only then that he realizes that he has become part-program and that he must eventually do what all programs facing deletion must do: “return to the Source –the machine mainframe”, just as the Oracle said: “–where the path of the One ends”.
When Neo asks the Oracle why she didn’t tell him the truth about the Architect and about the destruction of Zion, she replies that it was Neo who decided it was not time for him to know the truth. What the Oracle is trying to tell Neo is that if only he knew himself (“Temet Nosce”), he would realize why the Oracle had to manipulate and leave out certain pieces of information regarding the course of future events. Neo still does not realize that, because of his strong desire to stay in control of his own life, the Oracle needs to manipulate certain pieces of information and leave out other pieces so that Neo can still act upon his sense of free will and make his own choices.
The Oracle also confirms that, as a result of the equation trying to balance itself out, Smith and Neo have become each other’s opposites. Though Neo and Smith have both awakened to other realms of conscience and have both transcended the world of the Matrix, since their merging they have grown to become each other’s opposites: (i) Neo’s conscience has shifted towards programs while Smith’s conscience has shifted towards humans; (ii) Neo’s actions are motivated by love while Smith’s actions are motivated by hate; and (iii) Neo’s sense of purpose is not clear while Smith’s sense of purpose is very clear –whereas Neo has constant doubt about his purpose as being the One, Smith is very clear in his intent to destroy Neo. Although Neo and Smith are each other’s opposites in their actions and motivations, they remain intimately connected within the realm of conscience.
When Neo asks the Oracle about her intentions, she tells Neo that she wants the same thing he wants: “the end of the war”. She also tells Neo that the answer to ending the war is in his head, again leaving room for Neo to make his own choices (i.e. to deny fate) and to act upon his own sense of free will (i.e. to stay in control of his own life). As a hint of the decision the Oracle eventually wants Neo to make she tells him “Everything that has a beginning has an end”. What the Oracle is trying to tell Neo is that what started with a merging between Neo and Smith must also end with a merging between Neo and Smith. This is something Neo only comes to realize during his final battle with Smith.
Moments after Neo leaves the Oracle, Smith assimilates the Oracle and absorbs her ‘code’ –her ability to analyze equations to an outcome. The reason why Smith laughs so victoriously is because he sees the destruction of Neo through the eyes of the Oracle. This vision, however, is one where even Smith cannot see beyond any choice he does not understand. Smith envisions Neo’s destruction only up to the point where he later says “wait, I’ve seen this, you’re lying there just like that, and I stand here, and I’m supposed to say something”. Beyond this point, all the choices and actions of Neo will later evoke great confusion on Smith’s part because he doesn’t understand why Neo will not accept his defeat.
Since Bane and Neo are connected within the realm of consciousness, they both lose and regain consciousness at the same time. Bane wakes up just moments before Neo is jacked out from the Matrix and enters back into the real world. Although Bane’s body remains intact and unchanged, the assimilation by Smith causes his mind to become part program. Bane also hints at this when, in a moment of self-reflection, he questions himself: “but what if I’m not me, then who am I?”. When the assimilated Bane arrived back into the real world, he almost immediately started to inflict wounds upon himself. This urge was likely caused his program-conscience telling him to “surrender his flesh” and by his Smith-conscience telling him to get rid of the “repulsive smell” of skin.
It is also no coincidence that Bane sets out to stab Neo in the back just after his exit from the Matrix into Zion. Bane’s intent to destroy Neo is actually Smith’s intent to destroy Neo, only speaking through the mind of Bane. Though Bane’s skin remains intact (aside from his wounds), Neo will later look beyond the flesh and see Bane for what he really is: Smith. Since Bane is Smith’s avatar, Bane has become part-program when he was assimilated earlier and now he becomes Smith’s conscience in the real world. The battle that Neo and Smith must eventually settle in the world of the Matrix must also be settled between Neo and Bane in the real world of Zion.
After Neo comes to his decision to go to the Machine City, Niobe offers her ship to take him there not knowing that Bane is hiding on board of the Logos. After Bane and Trinity fight, Bane ends up holding a scalpel to Trinity’s neck and Neo looks “through the soft gelatin of his dull cow eyes” and realizes that Bane is actually Smith. During the ensuing battle with Bane, Neo becomes blinded and sees Smith in the form of golden light through his expanded consciousness of the world of machines. Just as Neo was able to see the ‘code’ of the Matrix after he realized he was not dead, Neo is now able to see the ‘code’ of the machine world once he realizes he is not blind: “I can see you”.
Neo’s connection to the realm of machine-conscience becomes even stronger after Bane is slain and shatters into golden light. Since Bane and Neo are connected within the realm of consciousness, Bane’s death and ascension into the world of machines allows Neo to awaken to the realm of machine-conscience. Just as Agent Smith’s shattering into green light was symbolic for Neo’s expanded consciousness into the world of programs, Bane’s shattering into golden light is symbolic for Neo’s expanded consciousness into the world of machines. Neo later hints towards his heightened consciousness of the world of machines when he and Trinity are flying over the fields and he says “I can feel them”.
During their flight out of Zion, Neo makes the decision to “follow those power lines”. This choice of direction is governed by his realizing that he must face his own destiny as the One and the destiny of all programs facing deletion: “return to the Source –where the path of the One ends”. The decision to follow the power lines is also governed by the vision he had earlier of flying over these same power lines while trapped in Mobil Ave and during his stay aboard the Hammer. Though Neo believes he is acting upon free will, the vision offers a sense of direction as to the decision the Oracle wants Neo to make. It is also the path that will allow Neo to eventually merge with a Sentinel and become connected to the realm of machines, exactly as the Oracle believes he should to end the war: “I’m interested in one thing Neo, the future [the end of the war], and believe me I know, the only way to get there is together”.
As Neo and Trinity approach the Machine City, hundreds of tow bombs are fired in their direction and Neo is able to detonate them by thinking it because he has now awakened to their realm of conscience. During the attack of the Sentinels, Neo is briefly able to see the ‘code’ of the Machines and merges with Sentinel X. Whereas the merging with Agent Smith allowed Neo’s conscience to connect to the realm of programs, the merging with Sentinel X causes part of the machine ‘code’ to become imprinted onto him and allows Neo’s conscience to connect to the realm of machines. Neo’s expanded consciousness into the realm of machines is highlighted in his ability to see the machines and the Machine City as “all built of light”, despite being blinded. When the attack of the Sentinels becomes too heavy for him to handle, Neo tells Trinity to fly over them. When they re-enter the “desert of the real”, the Logos crash-lands into the side structure of a tower and Trinity’s body is pierced with stakes. After realizing that Trinity is dead, Neo continues his quest to the Source and meets with Deus Ex Machina.
During their conversation, Neo informs Deus Ex Machina that “the program Smith has grown beyond your control” and that he will “soon spread through Machine City as he’s spread through the Matrix”. When Deus Ex Machina, in response, asks Neo “What do you want?”, Neo answers “Peace”, suggesting that –now that Trinity is dead– all he wants is to find balance and to end at One-ness. As soon as Neo expresses his wish for peace, his request is honored and the Sentinels in Zion stop attacking, evoking an awakened and renewed faith on behalf of Morpheus: “he fights for us”. After offering to destroy Smith, Neo gets jacked into the Matrix from within the Machine City.
After their cataclysmic fight, Smith questions Neo’s motivation for not wanting to accept his defeat: “Why do you do it, why get up, why keep fighting?”. Since Smith believes that “the purpose of all life is to end”, he does not understand why Neo would deny his own purpose by not accepting his end. Neo finally answers “because I choose to” because it is this moment that Neo finally realizes who he is and what the Oracle has been trying to tell him from the beginning (“Temet Nosce”). Even though Neo has become part-program and part-machine, he remains irrevocably human by his desire to stay in control of his own life and by maintaining his own sense of free will and choice.
It is only after Smith utters the words “Everything that has a beginning has an end” that Neo realizes that free will and choice in a world of fate and causality are mere illusions and that all the decisions that he had been making up to that point have actually been made on behalf of exactly what the Oracle wanted to see happen. It is also in this moment that Neo realizes that to permanently end the war between man and the machines, to bring freedom to the people of Zion, and to end at One-ness, he must merge with Smith. Once he realizes this, he stops his resistance, willingly accepts his fate, and allows himself to become assimilated by Smith: “you were right Smith, you were always right, it was inevitable”.
Moments after Neo is assimilated by Smith, Neo’s body in the real world breaks into a cross of golden light, symbolizing his true awakening to the realm of machine-conscience. The assimilated Neo subsequently breaks into white light, both in the world of the Matrix and in the real world. And since Neo has become connected to all the other Smiths through his assimilation, his breaking into white light causes all the Smiths within the Matrix to also break into white light. If breaking into green light symbolizes Neo’s awakening to program-conscience, and if breaking into golden light symbolizes Neo’s awakening to machine-conscience, Neo’s breaking into white light symbolizes his awakening to a singular conscience in which programs, humans, and machines are all unified.
Because Neo has managed to form the mould between the realms of humans and programs –through his merging with Agent Smith– and has managed to form the mould between the realms of humans and machines –through his merging with Sentinel X– Neo’s sacrifice allows the three realms of mind, body, and spirit to become unified and redeemed together as One. By accepting his divine fate, Neo ascends into divinity and becomes One with everything. And by doing so, Neo has ended the war between man and the machines, has brought freedom to the people of Zion, and has allowed for a temporary dissemination of his anomalous code into the prime program for a new [balanced and liberated] Matrix Reload.

I just finished reading the last part off your essay and you have done a very good job. I agree with just about everything and it was nice too see another anti MWAMer

Glad to hear that you enjoyed the read! I must tell ya that the write-up was quite enjoyable too. But certainly not easy. This is science fiction for grown-ups, dude! It was quite a challenge to get my head around the story and get to grips with the text and subtext, of what we hear and see on screen.
I was never convinced about the whole Matrix-within-a-matrix theory anyway (although, I must say, after viewing M2, it certainly seemed very plausible, for a while), but after viewing M3, the whole MWAM theory just didn;t seem to hold up anymore. It just seemed too much like linear thinking to me.
If one word would have to characterize the movie trilogy, 'linear', or 'linear-thinking' is not a word that comes to mind.
If you want to check out something that really helped me a lot in trying to get to grips with the story, you should surf to

uh, whoops! the site is

I have only read the part of your essay describing M3, and it was very good i enjoyed it, thank you for clearing some things up for me such as why bane was cutting himself (thats the only thing i really couldnt figure out) i pretty much agreed with everything you said umm, except for the parts where you say about the choice the oracle wanted neo to make, i agree that the oracle may have given him these visions to alter his conciounsness in his decisions, but you make it seem like she was manipulating neo, i dont think she was telling him to do those things, i think she was trying to , but i think in the end neo made all the decisions by himself, and by realizing and accepting what he had to do, not by being told it, he managed to save zion. Thats the only part i dont agree with but all in all very good (finally someone else who actually understands these movies) THANK YOU!

I think if you read the first two parts of the essay (check the “for those still confused…” threads in this forum), you’ll come to understand why I’ve given the Oracle such a profound role in determining Neo’s actions and decisions.

Remember the scene where Neo goes to see the Oracle for the first time?
Let me run through the scene quickly just to clarify something.

[The Oracle] “Oh, and don’t worry about the vase.”
[Neo] “what vase?”
Neo shifts his weight causing the vase to topple over and break on the floor.
[The Oracle] “that vase.”
[Neo] “how did you…”
[The Oracle] “what’s really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have dropped it if I didn’t say anything?”

It’s not like the Oracle tells Neo to topple the vase over, she only says something that will cause Neo to topple the vase over. Is she being manipulative? That’s one way to characterize it. Personally, I would prefer to use the term ‘all-knowing’, especially considering that she has the ability to predict the future (i.e. the ability to see the outcome of an equation).

Her goal was never to get Neo to break the vase, it was to get the point across that there’s a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. This theme runs throughout the rest of the entire trilogy.

If her goal was to break the vase, she could have also just told Neo “Neo, I want you to topple over that vase” but she doesn’t because she knows that because of Neo’s disobedient nature and because of his strong desire to remain in control of his own life, he probably would have chosen not to break the vase. Knowing Neo, he probably would have asked the Oracle “why?” in response, and chosen not to unless he understood the purpose of breaking the vase.



It’s not like The Oracle gives Neo orders on what he should do. All she does is provide information in such a way that Neo will eventually take a decision that will bring her closer to her goal –the end the end of the war.

Check out what the Oracle says in the scene when Neo comes to visit her again in M3:
[Neo] “Where is this going, where does it end?”
[The Oracle] “I don’t know”
[Neo] “You don’t know or you won’t tell me”
[The Oracle] “I told you before no-one can see beyond a choice they don’t understand. And I mean no-one”
[Neo] “What choice?”
[The Oracle] “It doesn’t matter, it’s my choice. I have mine to make, the same as you have yours”.

And then:
[Neo] “Does that include what things to tell me and what not”
[The Oracle] “Of course not”

My idea is that she is lying when she says “of course not” (I know, it hurts). But considering the goal of the Oracle is to end the war and that she’s willing to go as far as Neo is to get it, she is perhaps even willing to lie –just to get closer to (Neo) ending the war.

It’s a bit as if you were a fortune teller and this over-confident guy comes in to ask you whether he’ll pass his driving test tomorrow. Knowing that he is going to pass (based on your ability to predict the future), and knowing that this guy suffers from a big ego, you might even tell him “no” just to make sure that he pays more attention during driving than if he knew he was going to pass anyway.

Are you being manipulative? Or would you prefer to call it “all-knowing”?

Also imagine that this guy would be willing to sue you if he failed his test (okay, I’m exaggerating here, but I’m just trying to make a point here). So, imagine that your goal is to get this guy to pass tomorrow. Would you be willing to lie?

What if the guy asked you “are you saying no just so that I will pass?”
Would you be willing to lie and tell him “No”, just to make sure that he does pass and doesn’t eventually sue you?

eh, it's the same with the Oracle.

seravingian wrote:

If you want to check out something that really helped me a lot in trying to get to grips with the story, you should surf to roogle.nl... and click on "the Matrix trilogy Diagram" this is a diagram that I first drew-up as a starting point in getting to grips with the story. I think you'll find it insightful.

Could you explain why the Oracle (~ Body), Sati (~ Matrix) and Seraph (~ Machine mainframe) are on the outer circle in your diagram ? What is exactly the reasoning behind it ...

And why is the Architect Room between Zion & the Matrix (and not between the Matrix en the Machine mainframe) ?

Thx

Hi seravingian,
you wrote "Though Neo and Smith have both awakened to other realms of conscience and have both transcended the world of the Matrix, since their merging they have grown to become each other’s opposites"

I don't know if you read the script of enter the matrix (which is available online) but Niobe is able to communicate with the Oracle before even meeting her once. Are they connected or maybe they communicate trough an intermediate like Neo-Smith mind. No offence but to me something wrong.

Hey Clockwork,

Great to see that you read the essay and checked out the diagram I drew up! I'm excited to be back on the forum to answer your question. You asked why I had placed The Oracle, Seraph and Sati on the outer ring in the diagram.

Well, primarily it's because I believe these three people/programs are the first new residents (together with the Architect) of the newly reloaded Matrix that we see at the end of Revolutions. I somehow wanted to include the final scene of the movie in the diagram and felt that the outer ring was the best place to put them.

The Oracle is situated close to humans because she is a program shown to have a huge affinity for human intuition. She seems to have an understanding as to why humans would come to make certain irrational decisions. I feel that the Oracle is a program with a strong connection to humans and human-thinking.

Seraph is situated close to the machines because he appears as a body made of golden light (just as the machines in machine city). I see this golden glow being a result of his close affinity to machines or machine-conscience. Remember that machines were "endowed with the very spirit of man". I believe Seraph is made out of the very same uncorrupted spirit that was first introduced as part of AI to the machines.

Sati is situated close to programs because that is the core of what she is. She is born out of the love of two programs (Rama-Kandra and Kamala) and she seems to have the ability to change certain parameters in the Matrix (i.e. the sunshine) as she sees fit -very much like a programmer does.

Of course, to be complete the diagram would also have to include The Architect but I couldn't really figure out where he would fit best.
The Architect is shown to be extremely rational and almost apathetic to the human cause -very much unlike the three described above who are shown to have compassion, love, and understanding for the human cause.

Hey Mr. Rhineheart,

I haven’t read the script of Enter the Matrix, but I did watch the extra pieces of footage from the DVD boxset. I guess these scenes are meant as additional background information to show what happens “offscreen” during the course of events shown in Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions.
I would have opted for an “Extended Cut” or “Director’s Cut” instead in which these scenes were intercut and integrated into the rest of the Matrix Trilogy. Unfortunately though, I’m no Joel Silver or Wachowski Brother… though an extended cut would still be totally cool!

I’m not sure whether Niobe mentions her being able to communicate with the Oracle prior to their first meeting in one of the extra scenes from Enter the Matrix, but let me try and give you my thoughts without having read the script and based on what I remember from the dialogue in the additional scenes.

The scene that comes to mind is the one where Niobe and the Oracle meet and where the Oracle says something like “Neo needs all the help he can get. He is also going to need your help, and when he does, you must do everything you can to help him.”
I guess what The Oracle is saying is that when Neo asks to use her ship (The Logos) to go to Machine City, she needs to offer it to him. Eventually, of course, she does and Neo is able to complete his journey to Machine City (and his path to enlightenment).

Back to your point about the communication that seems to take place between Niobe and the Oracle prior to their meeting. I don’t think there is some sort of connection between Niobe and The Oracle that allows for telepathic communication between them. I believe that the Oracle knows the whereabouts of each and every member of the Human Resistance at all times and can ‘call upon’ them whenever she needs to give them information or advice. I believe this ‘calling upon’ happens through some intuitive signal that is picked up by people being sought out by the Oracle. It’s something you ‘feel’, not something you ‘experience’. Remember how Morpheus tells Neo in part 1 “It is time” just before they go to see the Oracle for the first time. Perhaps Morpheus felt the Oracle ‘calling-upon’ him and realized that the Oracle was ready to see them now. I believe it is this type of communication that Niobe ‘feels’ before she goes to see the Oracle.

Having said this I am not sure why Seraph feels he needs to make a phone-call to Morpheus in part 2 to tell them that the Oracle wishes to speak to them. Perhaps the Oracle could not 'call upon' them as she did with Morpheus the first time, because they were not at broadcast depth, or perhaps she was afraid that somebody else would be able to pick up on the signal that she was sending. Perhaps time was too short to wait upon Morpheus’s gut feeling of them needing to see the Oracle because Neo was stuck in Mobil Ave and there was not much time left to get him out.

What do you think? Does this make any sense? I should take a look at the script to be able to give you a better (and more consistent) answer but these are my initial thoughts on it anyway. I hope they’ll do for now.

peace.

I refer to the enter the matrix script where the council room scene in Zion is reproduce and Councillor Dillard ask for two volunteers to aid the Nebuchadnezzar. Niobe hears the Oracle voice guiding her. No offence but to me the MWAM theory may be not popular but is the most complete and coherent with all the scripts.

Niobe only talks to the Oracle later on in "Enter the Matrix"; this is in order to give Niobe the right push in the choice she has to make later on: to grant Neo the Logos or not?

She volunteers because she is pissed at Jason Lock.
Lock arranged for her to not join the fleed in the strategy to EMP the Sentinels (the deal where Bane was fucking it up).

This pissed off Niobe pretty bad, because she feels like a captain like everybody else and she does not want to be treated differently. So to bother Lock, she volonteers to help his rival Morpheus.

I agree...

But does she hear the Oracle voice?. Tell me your opinion...



Lock : No, you're not the same. You're the woman I love.
Niobe : It's not right.
Lock : I'm sorry, but I had to. I couldn't let you go, Niobe. I just couldn't.

-Scene returns to the Oracle-

Oracle : The truth is, that the path of the One is made by the many.

-Scene returns to the Council and Captains meeting- -The Oracle is still speaking in the background-

* This scene was in Reloaded, it is where Niobe accepts to search for the Neb.

Woman : Are there two among you who would answer such a call?
Oracle : Each of us has our own steps to take. Our own choices to make.
Niobe : Captain Niobe of the Logos will answer the Councilors' call.
Oracle : And if but one fails, all fail.

-Niobe, Ghost and Sparks are boarding the Logos- -Ghost and Sparks stare at Niobe-

Just to remind the last post was a copy paste from x-matrix.net

Yes Mr. Rhineheart, I played the game so I know the scenes, but thanks for posting anyway.

Chronologically it is not right. The Oracle is talking to Seraph in that scene. Seraph then still has to contact Ballard in order to give the message for Neo.

The scene with Niobe volunteering is much more further in the timeline.

But it's a nice overlapping scene, because Niobe was indeed needed in the path. Without her Morpheus would have died and Neo would not have reached the Architect.

I can see why a MWAM is tempting yes, because the machines seem to have influence to what happens in the Real World also.

My theory on that has always been that the machines can send intuitive thoughts to the headplugs, just like data reaching your cell phone.

Intuitive thoughts are not always enough to motivate people. So that's why the Oracle wanted to speak to Niobe in person: to make absolutely sure that she would grant the Logos to Neo.

But indeed it remains a pickle ( )
Commander Lock has no headplug so he could not be influenced to leave Niobe out of the fleed.

I am beginning to think that the rebels are not truly non-accepters of the Matrix...

Think about it...Only a selected few return to the Matrix as a rebel. So I am beginning to think that the rebels are pre-programmed/brainwashed in order to carry out the masterplan: find the One and deliver him to the Source.
In my theories I even think that Neo wasn't a non-accepter at first. He only became a non-accepter at the Architect where he made the choice at a very consious level.

Absolutely, we can also see animatrix "Program" that rebels must be tested in order to verify their loyaty to the real world.

Thanks for clarifying the council room scene.

seravingian wrote:

Well, primarily it's because I believe these three people/programs are the first new residents (together with the Architect) of the newly reloaded Matrix that we see at the end of Revolutions. I somehow wanted to include the final scene of the movie in the diagram and felt that the outer ring was the best place to put them.

Thanks for explaining, I just find it weird that you take the final scene, that represents 3 programs inside the matrix (Architect leaves and goes back to the machine mainframe) and place it in a diagram that represents the three realms : matrix, real world & machine world, ie a diagram that extends/is more than the matrix.

But that's just me

Btw, your diagram inspired me to make my own, if you're interested and/or want to comment upon it, I've put in online here : users.telenet.be...

Hi Clockwork,

Cool drawing! It shows that you have come to grips with the story, have included the most important places and characters, and have thought about where they fit in relation to the story. Good job!
Almost every diagram of a complex structure becomes a trade-off between clarity and simplicity on the one hand, and intricacy and complexity on the other hand. Whereas you chose for a more complex and intricate diagram, I chose for a more simple and straight-forward one. Also remember that I drew up the diagram as a starting point upon which I could base my Matrix theory. It was never meant as a definitive and all-encompassing drawing.
Now that I have become more acquainted with the script, that I have come to grips with the story, and that I feel I have a solid theory explaining all the elements contained within the story, I admit that the diagram contains some geographical errors, and that it misses some important characters (Morpheus, Trinity, DEM, etc.), and places (the backdoors to the Matrix, the Core Network, etc). Including these -as you have done- would have made the diagram more all-encompassing and complete.
Of course, the best thing would be to draw up a three-dimensional structure (i.e. a sphere) in which the Source is located at the core and situated at the center of where the the Matrix, Zion and the Machine City meet. The Architect's Chamber would also have to be situated between the Matrix (to the right) and the Source (to the left), since those are the two directions (i.e. doors) Neo can choose from. Mobil Ave would still be located between the world of the Matrix and the world of Machines (or the Source -assuming that's where programs originate from). The new Matrix (version 7.0) would have to be located on the outer rim to show that the new Matrix Reload is one where MIND, BODY and SPIRIT are all unified and liberated as one.

Clockwork wrote:

I just find it weird that you take the final scene, that represents 3 programs inside the matrix (Architect leaves and goes back to the machine mainframe) and place it in a diagram that represents the three realms : matrix, real world & machine world, ie a diagram that extends/is more than the matrix.

Well, primarily it's because I believe these three people/programs are the first new residents of the newly reloaded Matrix (in which MIND, BODY andf SPIRIT are united) that we see at the end of Revolutions. It is not the same Matrix (version 6.0) that we know from rest of the trilogy and should not be included in the diagram as such. Well, in my opinion anyway...

seravingian wrote:

Cool drawing! It shows that you have come to grips with the story, have included the most important places and characters, and have thought about where they fit in relation to the story. Good job!

Thanks for these praising words ... about the complexity of my diagram, there is also an alternative (more 'simple' for the 'players') version : users.telenet.be...

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Of course, the best thing would be to draw up a three-dimensional structure (i.e. a sphere) in which the Source is located at the core and situated at the center of where the the Matrix, Zion and the Machine City meet.

Hmm, dunno about the extra dimension (a 2D diagram is imo enough to do the trick) ... and actually, in my diagram the Machine City (01) represents the Machine Mainframe = the Source. Actually, 01 is the real world (body-) represantation of the Source (spirit).

[Now I come to think of it, or the machine mainframe, including the matrix, or the matrix network itself, can be seen as the network (mind-) representation of the Source (spirit)]

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The Architect's Chamber would also have to be situated between the Matrix (to the right) and the Source (to the left), since those are the two directions (i.e. doors) Neo can choose from. Mobil Ave would still be located between the world of the Matrix and the world of Machines (or the Source -assuming that's where programs originate from).

Yes, indeed.

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The new Matrix (version 7.0) would have to be located on the outer rim to show that the new Matrix Reload is one where MIND, BODY and SPIRIT are all unified and liberated as one.

I don't know about that .. Sure body, mind and spirit are reconnected at the end of the trilogy, but to say they are unified in this new matrix, both A.I. and Humans still need to seperate their mind and/or spirit from their body to enter this new matrix.

I do see them unified, but not literally _inside_ the new matrix, more like the bonds between them that were broken are reastablished : you can freely leave/enter the matrix, both humans as A.I., ...

So I also don't see this new matrix as the outer rim of the diagram/sphere, merely as a part of a free, totally interconnected universe ... before, body was seperated from the mind (bluepills), as was spirit seprated from the mind (exiles). But you do and that backs up your explanation about the three new/first inhabitants ... and why I find it hard to agree with that notion of matrix 7.0 that covers the whole sjabang.

For those that are interested, here's the latest (and probably final) version of my Matrix Universe Diagram :

That looks interesting.

So I gather you believe Zion is a Matrix too?

No, I do not ...


Some remarks/explanation about the diagram :

Layers

• Inner circle : Body - Mind - Spirit
  
• Enclosed donut : Players
  
• Outer donut : Worlds => Representation + Connections
  

• Artificial Intelligence : Body & Mind & Spirit
  
  • Programs : Spirit & Mind
    
  • Machines : Spirit & Body
  
  
• Humans : [ NO Spirit ! (not until Neo achieves Spirit)]
  • Redpills : Body & Mind
    
  • Bluepills : Mind
    
  • Humans (Zionborn) : Body

• Matrix - Mega City
  • Programs
    • Agents (& other 'matrix'-programs)
      
    • Exiles
      
    • Visitors
    
    
  • Humans
    • Bluepills
      
    • Redpills
  
  
• Real World - Zion
  • Humans
    • Redpills
    • Zionborn
  • Machines
  
  
• Machine World - 01 -[Machine mainframe aka The Source]-
  • Machines
  • A.I.
  • Programs

• Real world <=> Matrix network
  • Pods : head- & bodyplugs
    
  • Ships : headplug [+ wireless broadcast]
  
  
• Matrix network <=> Machine mainframe (Source)
  • backdoor hallway / Architect room
    
  • Train station / Mobil Ave / Limbo
  
  
• Machine mainframe <=> Real world
  • Sentinels, ... : wireless connection / ?...
    
  • Neo : wireless connection, head- & bodyplugs

But it is within the Source circle

There is no thing such as the Source circle ... it's three segmented worlds (Real world, Machine world, Matrix world)

(see for additional remarks in previous posts)