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What I would like to see in Matrix 4 (and how I would rewrite Matrix 3)

 

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One reason the sequels did not make good sequels is they didn't rhyme with the first movie nor did they wrap up any of the issues introduced into it. In other words, the whole "when the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside..." thing said by Morpheus was practically put to waste. Now some of you might say "well the prophecy was another form on control - duuuh, didn't you listen to what the Architect said?" Fair enough, but generally speaking, working within the context of a trilogy means you have stick to what you wrote in the first movie and expand upon it, not change it. So in Matrix 1, we have built a concept but then in Matrix 2, we are now told that that concept is null-and-void. I don't care how defensive get, that is just BAD STORY-TELLING. In my view, the sequels were more like off-shoots at the first movie rather than proper sequels. (It must be said however that the first movie didn't really need a sequel anyway -- it was a brilliant, self-contained piece of writing). If you want to watch a proper trilogy, go watch Back to the Future or the first Star Wars trilogy. Both those trilogies developed GUIDELINES in their first movie and used those guidelines to unfold the rest of the trilogy. More importantly, they RHYMED with each other.

Which leads me to my point...

The idea of a so-called Matrix Trilogy is a paradoxx because the Matrix itself is a cycle and is unbreakable. To create a trilogy is to create a proper story with a beginning, development and a conclusion. Relating the concepts of the Matrix and a trilogy would mean that you introduce the concept of the Matrix, discuss what happens during the course of the Matrix, then conclude the Matrix by either destroying it or making it seem it wasn't even real. In terms of major events, nothing really happened between Matrix 1 and Matrix 3 except a whole bunch of eye candy.

If I was to rewrite the sequels, I'd concentrate on the PROPHECY explained by Morpheus. I thought was a brilliant premise to build the "rest" of the story on.

"When the Matrix was first built, there was a Man born inside who had the abillity to change it, to rebuild the Matrix as he saw fit. It was he that freed the first of us. When he died, the Oracle prophesied his return and that his Second Coming would hail the DESTRUCTION OF THE MATRIX, bring freedom to our people"

(In the first movie, this meant the world to the audience. In the sequels, it was shat upon like Fat Bastard with diaharrea).

So, I would re-write the sequels to ENSURE the Matrix gets destroyed or at least use some ingenius story-telling to explain that the Matrix wasn't really real or was simply a metaphor for our minds and our belief within ourselves. I'd use more of a sci-fi, spiritual take rather than rely on heavy duty special effects and the addition of seemingly pointless characters (besides being ugly and annoying, what was the point of The Twins...?)

I thought the Animatrix was a brilliant way to go back to the beginnings of the Matrix timeline and I sincerely thought that the Trilogy would touch up on some of the things mentioned in The Second Renaissance. Unfortunately, it didn't. There was a shitload of concepts in there that I used my imagination to "finish" the trilogy off. I wanted the trilogy to end on a sort of "back to the beginning" vibe. But regrettably, the real ending was far from what I intended.

Some things I'd prefer to have seen in trilogy:

* I didn't want Neo to die. I wanted him to take more of the role as he did at the end of Matrix 1 where he invincible and is trying to help the rest of the human race to be the same

* I wanted The Matrix to be UTTERLY DESTROYED. The Matrix is the fucking enemy for Christ's sake. The whole purpose of the first film was to end the war and destroy the control. At the moment, I'm not feeling that creative to come up with an idea on how to destroy it but I guess one shit idea would be that if Neo could travel through time, go back to the beginning of the Matrix, meet the "Man who was born inside", get some feedback on how to effectively wipe it out and use the info to end it

*The morals brought up in that Scrooge Christmas story (where he is taken through time to view the effects of his actions) are brilliant and would really suit the Matrix. If Neo could perhaps show the humans that their mistreatment of the robots would ultimately end with their own demise, they could change their ways.

*I wanted more emphasis on the relationship between Neo and Morpheus. Morpheus was a tour de force in Matrix 1 but was a sad pathetic extra in the sequels. Morpheus was all about the Prophecy -- once the Prophecy is proven wrong, Morpheus is now a vegetable. They should have taken the whole "you're like a father to us" a little more.

That's it for now, I'll come back when I have more ideas.

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hehe parallels with the Bible here.

Loads of people waiting for a warrior to arrive who will vanquish their enemies and bring peace to the world. How disillusioned must they have become when they found that their 'messiah' was bringing just a message of peace and not a whole new world order as they had expected.

We expect Neo to DESTROY the matrix utterly, but he doesn't fulfill expectations and we are confused. He does not vanquish the enemy the way we expect. Morpheus says that the one was meant to "bring freedom to our people". Neo does this in a way that is completely unexpected.

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I am sorry but i have to disagree with you, dudewheresthebar, as your perception of the Matrix is not as wide, in my opinion.
True the concept that many of us Matrix fans have come to encounter that the sequels were not as good as the first Matrix, yet you miss many good points that do rocket in the fan's hearts.

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If I was to rewrite the sequels, I'd concentrate on the PROPHECY explained by Morpheus. I thought was a brilliant premise to build the "rest" of the story on.


This fair enough is something that i am sure many people would like to focus on. The weak part of this analysis is that you are being too subjective and unrealistic as many characters in the film do not beleive in the prophecy such as The Commander and too much heavy focus on the prohecy could have bored us as the audience.

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There was a shitload of concepts in there that I used my imagination to "finish" the trilogy off.


The concepts didnt need finishing off. There were many religious beleifs from different religions that, like many famous stories of the 19th century (i.e Sherlock Holmes), reflected the current affairs of the world today even though the story is set in the future and i mean it when is ay it here, no offense, but i sincerly doubt that your imagination could suffice the hunger of millions around the world who love the Matrix trilogy.

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I wanted The Matrix to be UTTERLY DESTROYED. The Matrix is the fucking enemy for Christ's sake. The whole purpose of the first film was to end the war and destroy the control. At the moment, I'm not feeling that creative to come up with an idea on how to destroy it


you are contradicting yourself as you also stated that the matrix was a forver cycling idea, which if you don't notice is by the end of the trilogy, free of most humans and only programmes are left. And it isn't the fact that you arn't feeling to creative, its the fact that you couldn't think of a better idea in the first palce so stop the bullshit and actually devise a better storyline! *breathes impatiently*

My final pick at the carcus that is your post:
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The morals brought up in that Scrooge Christmas story (where he is taken through time to view the effects of his actions) are brilliant and would really suit the Matrix.

Charles Dickens was an amazing storyteller that has captivated millions over the past century. May i say, How can you, as a storyteller, merge the two into a poised position of unnatural positioning. They ahve no rellevance to each other, in my opinion. Ergo, your argument sucks, seeing as Scrooge is taken back and forward through time to see the consequences and the idea of his death and isolation from other humans, scares him. He is therefore being as selfish as he is, previously in the story. The idea of Neo going back in time to meet the first human is ludicris as the effects of self-timetravel in most science-fiction literature are drastic, causing some sort of time paradox and causing yourself never to be born. You clearly have not thought through tour storylines, that seem to be unjust for this story. Not to mention the matrix and Dicken's A Christmas Carol are two very different genres and were written over a century apart and have no relleavant connectiong.
Basically, if i were a townie, i would say..." You are chatting Breeze!You talk Monkey Shit!"
And the next time you come back to this forum please, pelase bring some sensible and logical ideas to amaze us with as the ones you have brought to us in this thread, are not. looking forward to reading your new posts.

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