[Matrix Revolutions]
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Having been in the other topic of the Merovingian telling Neo 'I am your father' i thought of a mythological connection for our favourite French speaking cake maker


the Merovingian is Kronos, or Saturn

Arrow Mero has survived Neo's predecessors... How many has he had?
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if you don't already know Neo is Zeus or Jupiter and every messiah from every religion be it Horus or Jesus or Buddha or Krishna etc. are all the same character wrapped in different cultures.

Kronos devoured his first five children because an Oracle told him that one of them would overthrow him. Kronos' wife/sister Rhea hid Zeus/Jupiter from Kronos, she fed Kronos a stone wrapped as a child instead.

when Zeus grew up he forced Kronos to puke up the other children and give up his throne

the greek word 'chronos' means 'time'
Kronos is usually shown as a bent old man with a scythe in one hand and a serpent that bites its own tail in the other

the serpent swallowing its own tail is a symbol representing time, its cycle how it never ends and how we are trapped by the cycle of time
spirals also represent this, and of course a circle

though Merovingian could represent other figures like Hades, you cannot overlook his parallel to Kronos

now the time has come

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hey, I am kind of jealous !

why am I here ? Same reason :
I love candy...
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it is a cool dress

but enough about the avatar...

about the topic....... now


if Mero is parallel to Kronos and is the real father of the matrix and Persephone is the mother, the Architect is just an avatar to get Neo to do one thing or the other

we need to look further into this i think...


i just bought Reloaded...
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That's no dress.....it's a battle station.

Wow, esc. That is a really cool and meaningful correlation. You already bought Reloaded? By 6 in the morning?

You are great!

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actually i got it at midnight after seeing 'Kill Bill' which is a damn fine film (time differences are weird)

is it just me, or does there seem to be a lack of audio commentary on the dvd, i know there is none on the reloaded dvd, the behind the scenes thing is cool but you'd think at least some of the cast and silver and gaeta or somebody would have commented on the film...

...two points...

another thing is Bacchus or Dionysus, the god of Wine
a Satyr is that goat legged horn dude and is an attendant of Bacchus

also...

satyriasis is an abnormal and unmanageable sexual desire in a man

does the Merovingian have satyriasis?

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The brothers are adamant about the films just "standing on their own."
But, as fans, we really want an audio commentary!
Couldn't they at least have gotten Carrie-Ann, Laurence, and Keanu to watch it and comment? That would have been acceptable.
The first Matrix DVD really showed what DVD was capable of, no commentary does seem to be a regression. (not that Reloaded isn't a must own for the DVD movie enthusiast!)
"Preloaded" is pretty cool, though. I really like the Extras Disc's Title Screen.

btw, kill bill is fantastic, blood-spilling madness!

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That's degrading... Cool

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No, it's a new version of Persephone, thus it's upgrading.

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Having been in the other topic of the Merovingian telling Neo 'I am your father' i thought of a mythological connection for our favourite French speaking cake maker

when Zeus grew up he forced Kronos to puke up the other children and give up his throne



Hmm.. I always thought Jupiter gutted Cronos and his brethren fell from gigantic wound. 3Tooth

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Jupiter may have cut open his father, as that would be a typically Roman thing to do, but Zeus did not, he was saved by his mother and hidden away to grow up.

I think the parralel (sp?) is actually pretty clever. There seems to be a lot in the Merovingian, and I am inclined to believe he is a mix of gods with Hades presiding in influence. After being in the Matrix for the Architect knows how long, with the same wife who he really doesn't love, I can understand the merovingian being a lot unfaithful. I just want to know what Persephone does to get him back *Grins evilly*

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in the last movie they make us beleive ALL persons and things are clones...did smith absorb merovingian? If he did why the hell couldn't we have seen it?

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Smith took over everyone in the last movies, he didn't clone anyone. He simply decided to become everyone and make them wear his image, like Agents when they body jump to get to rebels. He got access to all their knowledge because they still read as themselves even if they were infected by the virus that is Smith.

The Merovingian probably went all whimpy and hid behind Persephone or something and you can't have the god of the underworld humiliated for all the fanfiction people to see, they'd make too much of it. :p

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Did Smith assimilate the Merovingian?

I admit this is a good question which hasn't been answered. It is left up to our imagination. Many fans have hypothesized many things. You can check them out on these forums as well.

I think the reason the Wachowskis didn't release this info (at the time atleast) is because of the nature of evil. Arguably, both Smith and Merv are forms of evil. On the other hand, Smith could be called ultimate evil while Merv is only a necessary unbalance in the nature of the universe.

Either way....it doesn't affect the story of Revolutions greatly.

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