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[Matrix Reloaded] Ghost: "But you'd have to take out a whole city block to kill the power to a building like that." Keymaker: "Not one, 27." Vector: "27 blocks?"
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marktrix
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mwm seems like logic ?
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I would agree with that statement if it were addressing themes that are not pertinent to the series.
The philosophers on the discs explain the concepts of the different spaces in the movies as representative of the human condition. Zion is the body physical, the matrix the mind , and the machine city as spirit.
I don't see how MwM fits into that metaphysics. Could you flesh that out or is it just 'turtles all the way down' ?
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Gnostic
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You do not talk about Fight Club!
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Quote: | | "On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everything drops to zero" - Fight Club |
Significantly, Fight Club came out at the same time as The Matrix. There were several other films questioning the nature of reality (or rather, our perception of reality): 13th Floor, Dark City, Truman Show, eXistenZ. Even American Beauty had a simialr theme, a man questioning his world.
There's a lot of relation between Fight Club and The Matrix once we get beyond the science fiction angle:
Someone quetions the nature of the world around him. He delves into an alternative reality to find the truth. Extreme physical danger (fighting) releases his inner self.
Both movies have a film noire look to them. And they contrast the gritty real world (Zion, the underground fight clubs) with the antisceptically clean cities which are meant to keep us entranced. Indeed, Fight Club's city could just as well as be Mr Anderson's city.
ends with the apocalypse. ends with, well, the promise of more.
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The second rule of Fight Club
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I'd give you that Hollywood was sending a message there in the late 1990s with all these movies: you are being entranced by the Society of the Spectacle, you are being deluded by media, politicians, the entertainment-military-prison-industrial-complex. Wake Up!
The Matrix pretty much states this thesis: the world we see is the delusion our society has pulled over our eyes.
Fight Club shows what people have always done in the face of overwhelming societies: form underground sects in which rituals are carried out in the dead of night to free the mind. Sort of like an after hours rave, eh?[/i]
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