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It looks like it. You will have to log into the site.

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Oh god

there is no justice


Ok, so sophia made the original movie

I WISH THIS HAD BEEN FINISHED BEFORE THE THIRD MOVIE!

we could have had a quality movie


but no...

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I know that the link is from a newspaper, but much of it is from her own website. How credible is it?

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For those who can't be arsed to login:

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We're in the article - YAY! Smile

"Stewart has confronted skepticism on all sides, much of which comes from Matrix fans, who are strangely loyal to the Wachowski Brothers. One on-line forum, entitled Matrix Explained has an entire section devoted to Stewart. Some who have researched her history and writings are open to her story. Others are suspicious and mocking. "It doesn't bother me," said Stewart in a phone interview last week, "I always knew what was true."


Look we're named "One on-line forum, entitled Matrix Explained"!

Anyway naturally Sophia has to realise that dodgy cases are made and won all the time, especially in America, so there is still going to be scepticism. Even so, she has two reasons not to care:
(i) She is now filthy rich
and (ii) she has provided us with some evidence now that she at least had a case good enough to convince a jury. Which is a lot more than we were given reason to think she had before.

I still want to know a few things though.
(i) Why doesn't she understand the sequels?
(ii) Was that rubbish link we had to some sci-fi version of the Bible actually the third eye or was that just a hoax? (After all the authour was named as Zenia, not Sophia!)
(iii) If the terminator had already been recognised as being plagurised from someone else, does this mean it is now recognised as being plagurised from TWO people at the SAME time?

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well good for her

lets see if she gives all the money away to those poor exploited blacks she kept on harping on about?

somehow...i think not

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(iii) If the terminator had already been recognised as being plagurised from someone else, does this mean it is now recognised as being plagurised from TWO people at the SAME time?


did she plagerise it from the original story written donkeys before she wrote the third eye

god how much justice would it be if she got her money and someone sued her and got all of it

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Hey, Sophia if you read this: Do you want to start a TV channel? Would be cool if we could work together.

We could develop some brand new ideas!

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(iii) If the terminator had already been recognised as being plagurised from someone else, does this mean it is now recognised as being plagurised from TWO people at the SAME time?


did she plagerise it from the original story written donkeys before she wrote the third eye

god how much justice would it be if she got her money and someone sued her and got all of it

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Damn, even when u find out she DID have influence over the Matrix trilogy you still bad mouth her. Denial....the most predictable of human responses. never fails.

just let it go...the Wachowskis didnt come up with all of it after all. and if they even took a piece of it and built a story around it she is still entitled to monetary compensation! how would you feel?

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Did she get money for the sequels as well or were they recognised as significantly different from her original concept. (As if her wannabe Star Trek story wasn't far enough removed from 'The Matrix' anyway!)

We don't have to accept that the jury made the right decision especially since we have several pages of the Third Eye available to us so we can see just what BS she is talking anyway.

Oh by the way IEman I never got the chance to tell you:
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We don't have to accept that the jury made the right decision especially since we have several pages of the Third Eye available to us so we can see just what BS she is talking anyway.


thats denial fatpie lol. if all you got to read was a couple pages like the rest of us, imagine what the judge and jury got to read and see? if it was inadmissable it would have never been introduced: determined by the judge, and the law.

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So was the outcome in the OJ trial. Your point being?

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So was the outcome in the OJ trial. Your point being?


my point being: denial causes a person to not see the truth, not see whats being put right in front of their faces. i guess oj is a good example Wink , and so is this case.

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its documented fact that james cameron was sued already about plagerising the terminator from an old story which was written before the third eye....its a logical conclusion to think that she did the same thing is it not

she said that she didnt care about the money...so why sue for damages....why not just be happy to have an acknowlegement in the film titles?

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she said that she didnt care about the money...so why sue for damages....why not just be happy to have an acknowlegement in the film titles?


wow.. who in this entire world would just be happy with an "acknowledgement" in a billion dollar grossing franchise? especially when your ideas laid the ground-work for it. does that make any sense to ANYONE?

the wachowskis can come out themselves and say "we stole ideas from sophia stewart", and you guys still wouldnt believe it.

now THATS dediicated. i hope i find friends like you guys Smile

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she said that she didnt care about the money...so why sue for damages....why not just be happy to have an acknowlegement in the film titles?


exactly

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wow.. who in this entire world would just be happy with an "acknowledgement" in a billion dollar grossing franchise? especially when your ideas laid the ground-work for it. does that make any sense to ANYONE?


You're right, but the thing is...if I were to file a lawsuit it would be about money. I also wouldn't say that it isn't about money when it really is. She said herself that it is not about money, but then turned around and sued for a ton of money...don't say it's not about money when it really is. I know it's about getting recognition too, but the money had a great deal to do with it also, so don't say it has nothing to do with money.

"This is all about the Benjamins," said Stewart. "It's not about money with me. It's about justice."-Sophia Stewart

Did she contradict herself with that statement? If not then...justice=money(benjamins...lots and lots of benjamins)?


"My whole message to the world is about God and good and about choice, about spirituality prevailing over 'technocracy'."-Sophia Stewart

and what better wat to portray that message than at da ghetto tymz dot com?

In America, with the right lawyer, you can sue someone for wearing the same shoes that you are wearing.
Does this mean that every movie/novel/idea/video game/ anything from now on is subject to a lawsuit?

(my quotes from Sophia Stewart were taken directly from slccglobelink.com...just saying this to cover myself so I don't get sued for quoting without permission)

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she said that she didnt care about the money...so why sue for damages....why not just be happy to have an acknowlegement in the film titles?


exactly

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wow.. who in this entire world would just be happy with an "acknowledgement" in a billion dollar grossing franchise? especially when your ideas laid the ground-work for it. does that make any sense to ANYONE?


You're right, but the thing is...if I were to file a lawsuit it would be about money. I also wouldn't say that it isn't about money when it really is. She said herself that it is not about money, but then turned around and sued for a ton of money...don't say it's not about money when it really is. I know it's about getting recognition too, but the money had a great deal to do with it also, so don't say it has nothing to do with money.

"This is all about the Benjamins," said Stewart. "It's not about money with me. It's about justice."-Sophia Stewart

Did she contradict herself with that statement? If not then...justice=money(benjamins...lots and lots of benjamins)?


"My whole message to the world is about God and good and about choice, about spirituality prevailing over 'technocracy'."-Sophia Stewart

and what better wat to portray that message than at da ghetto tymz dot com?

In America, with the right lawyer, you can sue someone for wearing the same shoes you that you are wearing.
Does this mean that every movie/novel/idea/video game/ anything from now on is subject to a lawsuit?

(my quotes from Sophia Stewart were taken directly from slccglobelink.com...just saying this to cover myself so I don't get sued for quoting without permission)


you're a funny guy. lol. but seriously, even if she did say it wasnt about the money, come on now. GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. if it was stolen , or used, or whatever with out her consent its copyright infringement--and legally and morally its only right for her to get paid for it...aside from what she verbalized "its not about the money".

i could understand why she said that...since so many people doubted her and made fun of her (especially on this board) ..i could understand why its more about the respect than the money. but come on, who would not accept the money? who would give it up just to have an acknowlegement? please...

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if someone was shooting at the wachowskis would you guys jump in the way of the bullets?

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IEman, i totally agree with you. This is just a case of jealousy by Fatpie and his buddies above. Someone up there said that James Cameron was sued because of plagiarising the Terminator from someone else. The question is, did that person win the lawsuit? Did that person have the evidence?

The answer is Nope. Those no talent wachowski brothers and equally no talent James Cameron got what they deserved.

Again, why should Sophia be happy without the money and just acknowledgement? The Third Eye is intellectual WORK and hence she deserves every penny she can get out of those scumbags. Hope she keeps writing cause obviously she is very creative.

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IEMan99 wrote:

you're a funny guy.

thanks

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question:
if someone was shooting at the wachowskis would you guys jump in the way of the bullets?


no, i wouldnt. did i give the impression that i would? would you block Sophia from being shot?

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i could understand why she said that...since so many people doubted her and made fun of her (especially on this board) ..i could understand why its more about the respect than the money. but come on, who would not accept the money? who would give it up just to have an acknowlegement? please...


I can understand why she said that too, imagine what would have happened if she would have walked in to court and said that its about the money. but instead she played the role of the humble citizen who didnt care about the money...that is why she got so much out of it, right? if it was about respect then its about respect and not money.

I would accept the money too! i just said that in my last post! i am saying that money had a LARGE part in it, contrary to what she says. plain and simple.

who would give up the money just for acknowlegement? a person who honestly truly cared about the recognition and respect that they were due and NOT the money, thats who.

i give respect where it is due, i dont care who wrote it! i love the story and the ideas in it. im saying that i dont have so much respect for her if she is claiming that it is not about money when it is. now, if she took ALL that money and GAVE it away to all the black people that have been ripped off by the white man as a "share" in the principle of the matter, that is a different story...but i do not see her doing that.

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The only thing that still has me confused is if the original Terminator came out in 1981 or so, then why did she file the lawsuit after the original Matrix came out in 1999? That's been the basis of my argument the entire time. If I could understand that then I could acknowledge that she was plagiairized.

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The only thing that still has me confused is if the original Terminator came out in 1981 or so, then why did she file the lawsuit after the original Matrix came out in 1999? That's been the basis of my argument the entire time. If I could understand that then I could acknowledge that she was plagiairized.


i have read that she claims she or anybody she knows (who knows her work) never saw the movie. that it is just an assumption by the white media...that most of the population of America has seen or knows the story of Terminator. it wasnt until she saw the Matrix that she found out about Terminator...over a decade later.

I am just repeating what i have read, please (supporters of Sophia) do not attack me for saying this, i am not saying it is true or false, simply what i have read

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I understand that and that's a valid reason. But, T2 came out around 1991 or 1992 and was a huge success, just like the original Matrix was. I'm sure, if you're writing scripts like Sophia was, and know the movie industry, that you would have heard of T2 and would have had some skepticism then about the validity of the movie.

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guess she never saw or heard of that one too

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lol

I'm trying to be objective but it's hard to be with this one.
Honestly, I don't care though because the movies were hot and that's all that really matters.

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lol

I'm trying to be objective but it's hard to be with this one.
Honestly, I don't care though because the movies were hot and that's all that really matters.


yeah, thats all that really matters at the end of the day. the matrix trilogy was an epic. so was terminator up until the third one. its not like i'm getting a piece of the money... but, good for her Smile now she can take her private jet to the supermarket like the wachowskis and joel silver.

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so was terminator up until the third one


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