»What the Oracle Ment When she said Neo would Return«

Hmm..
Are the wachowskis pointing to a matrix 4 ?
Or are they just looking for a happy hollywood ending, where they always say that?
What do you guys/gals think?
(I think that they're pointing to a m4, but I dunno if they'll ever suceed to make it considering its not official yet.)

She says "I think so... someday". I think she means there will be another "one" someday. That doesn't mean that it will be Keanu Reeves again though.

Exactly

It could mean that, but she CLEARLY states that refering to NEO, not a "One". There is only one Neo, that is Thomas A. Anderson. I don't believe she meant any other thing besides Neo's return. By the way, at the end of revolutions, when the "deal" with the God machine, if Neo was really dead, do you think that the God machine would have said " It is done"? I personally don't think that he would be speaking to the air.

The Oracle really is talking about the One, and not Neo. I mean even Keanue Reeves himself said he is done with the matrix, and unless he filmed seperate scenes for future reference, the idea that Neo will return is irrelavent. It's more of a thing with fans of the movies not wanting Neo to die, but he did. Remember, when people are unplugged their minds are freed. She refers to Neo's mind/the anomaly which is what we will see again one day.
What makes me say this is the face that I believe that when Neo's body is being dragged away they saved his mind for any catastrophes in the future such as another Smith. This is what the Oracle is referring to.

THEN WHY DO YOU THINK THE MACHINE GOD SAID :"IT IS DONE" TO NEO? ADMIT IT MAN, WHY DO YOU CONSTANTLY DENY IT....OH SORRY I FORGOT..."DENIAL IS THE MOST PREDICTABLE OF ALL HUMAN RESPONSES"....

Dumb folk.

There will be no Matrix 4.

DeAdLy_cOoKiE ™ wrote:

Dumb folk. There will be no Matrix 4.

Exactly.

I know, but my point about Neo's death is not if there will be a matrix 4, but more that neo's still alive. I mean, wether he is deas or not, they could(the wachowski bos) make the story for comics( which they will, just check the main matrix website) and there is the matrix online. The fact is that Neo might just be alive. Didn't mean that there would be any matrix 4 folks.

The "will we see him again" line was probably included because the W2 brothers thought they were going to have a smash hit with fans with M3. So the marketing department or whoever threw in this line to boost future ticket sales.

But since the Matrix fans came out of the theaters less than pleased, the line becomes just a tag.

By the way, if Neo saved the Machine God's hash, does this mean there will be another iteration of the Matrix (not the movie, I mean the one created by the Architect)?

She was referring to the One. Despite the populour belief that the previous Ones were NOT Keanu, it's still possible that they were, or similar perhaps, so the line rings true.

As for M3, pfft, I loved it.

Neo is dead, this is confirmed by the Matrix online trailers.
There will not be a M4, and if they do I will put the Wachowskies in the same league of George Lucas.

after all is said and "...It is done!", to what purpouse does the deus have to cerimoniousley take Andersons body away? Is the body now a symbiotic vessil for which the archetect can use further? Perhaps, a specimen for clonng the perpetual generations of the "one"...along with residu from smith...

Priestan Ti wrote:

after all is said and "...It is done!", to what purpouse does the deus have to cerimoniousley take Andersons body away? Is the body now a symbiotic vessil for which the archetect can use further? Perhaps, a specimen for clonng the perpetual generations of the "one"...along with residu from smith...

His body is needed so his mind can be reinserted in to the matrix, since the One carries the code needed to reload the matrix.

this is what i believed as well. Do you think that the "one" code Neo carries has somehow been corrupted or altered by the smith programs evolution? If so, I am interested to hear some forcasts about the next "one" and how they will interface with the matrix that time around.

Priestan Ti wrote:

this is what i believed as well. Do you think that the "one" code Neo carries has somehow been corrupted or altered by the smith programs evolution? If so, I am interested to hear some forcasts about the next "one" and how they will interface with the matrix that time around.

I never thought of that but who knows if the code the One carries could be somehow corrupted by Smith. And if this was t he case the code would probably never reach the source.

if the machines take neo's mind and plug it back into the matrix, wouldn't that mean that neo could appear anytime inside the matrix if the machines needed to use him to fix this civil war in the matrix online? i mean his body is dead in the real world but his mind holds the code, wouldn't he be able to appear in the matrix?

if they stick with a religious theme, then neo would come back again...like Jesus, and he will save the world. pointing at number 4 which these days will probably happen by 2007 a sequal that is, not Jesus coming back, im guessing he will come back in 2020

neomx3 wrote:

if the machines take neo's mind and plug it back into the matrix, wouldn't that mean that neo could appear anytime inside the matrix if the machines needed to use him to fix this civil war in the matrix online? i mean his body is dead in the real world but his mind holds the code, wouldn't he be able to appear in the matrix?

That's exactly what I believe. Just in case there is another disaster like Smith they can have something to counteract it.

White_Rabbit wrote:

Hmm.. Are the wachowskis pointing to a matrix 4 ? Or are they just looking for a happy hollywood ending, where they always say that? What do you guys/gals think? (I think that they're pointing to a m4, but I dunno if they'll ever suceed to make it considering its not official yet.)

The Oracle meant that Neo would show up in the Matrix again. Not as Neo- he's dead-, but as the one. It's the whole unbalanced equation thing. I hope they don't make a 4th movie!

Exactly....and no there will not be another Matrix.

Why would the Oracle lie, or try to confuse the child? Neo's body and mind was taken into the machine city as the final stage of his character's developing induction into the machine world. Just as Smith completed his transformation into the realm of humanity by subcoming to his ultimate fate after realizing he's "plugged in" to the machine world. Smith went the way of humanity under the rule of 01 and Neo went the way of the mechanisms.

I heard about a project of an long anime including Seraph on a movie site (it was not an intrnet rumor), but since then nothing new.

It looks like people are not trusting the Matrix franchise anymore.

Best thing to do is to make your own damn mind up, worst thing to do is to argue about it.

Make your own conclusions, make one that makes you happy, stick with it and enjoy.