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AT*** WARNING!!! SPOILERS ****
I was surfing last night seeking info of the M3 and I found something rather interesting: A summary of THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS SCRIPT!
Or that's what it claims to be... I'm a bit sceptic about it. Partly it seems very nice peace of work, but the ending for instance is bs there are some other stupid parts. I'll post it anyway (maintenance might remove it, but what the heck..)
It's your decision wether u read it or not!

**************REVOLUTIONS SPOILERS BELOW******************REVOLUTIONS SPOILERS BELOW*************************
Neo is in the real world or so he thinks dreaming of three lines in the
desert of the real. when he awakes...
Neo is in the matrix at a trainstation, where he meets this crazed bum
looking guy who operates the train. the train is controlled through this
trainman who is a rogue program trying to avoid the Merovingian. On this
train is a program which is the offspring of two other rogue prgrams.
Trinity and Morpheus get aboard the Hammer and go looking for the Logos
and niobe's crew. When they find the Logos Niobe explains that Neo is
trapped outside of his body and is now in the matrix. They power up the
logos and return to zion to discuss the new plan with the council. At
which point bane wakes up and after killing the medic sneaks aboard the
Logos. Both ships head to broadcast depth to see the Oracle the logos has
trinity morpheus and neo's body.
The oracle explains that Neo is being held in the matrix by the
merovingian and is now operating somewhat like a rogue program roaming
free in the matrix but cannot escape. She tells them that to free neo
they must find the Merovingian at the hell club. Seraph who guards that
which matters most (the future not the oracle) leads Morph and trin to
the hell club.
At the same time Neo learns more about the nature of the matrix from the
trainman, the matrix is deteriorating and there are glitches happening
all over, and more about his nature and the nature of other rogue
programs from the programs themselves. The programs are basically three
factions those that work for the system, those that are free from the
system but have given up hope that there is such a thing as free will so
have thrown in their lot with the merovingian and enjoy the pleasures of
the matrix, and those that are working to free themselves and everyone
else from the system.
Morph trin and seraph fight their way to the Merovingian and Persephone,
ghost and niobe fight their way to neo. They find neo and explain what is
happening. Meanwhile Morph and trin make it to Persephone. Seraph gets
killed along the way saving them both but they get persephone to turn and
help kill the merovingian before he blows up the whole place..
Ghost and niobe get an exit and neo flys to see the Oracle at her
apartment. She explains that at this point smith has taken over much of
the matrix and the darkness will spread consuming them all. If the matrix
ends, the machines end and so do the humans. She explains his earlier
vision of three lines and says to follow them to get to 01he must help to
save the matrix and to do so he must go to the machine capital. She
explains it must end tonight, or all will be lost.
Smith takes over the the trainman and the prodidgy of the rogue programs.
Discovers the whereabouts of the Oracle.
Morph and trin jack out as bane/smith attack the crew with the plasma
gun. Link gets overcome and bane attacks Neo while he is still jacked in.
Morph kills bane as Neo jacks out and realizes he is blind due to the
attack. Morph, link, niobe and ghost board the hammer and head back to
zion after getting an emergency call. Trin and Neo head towards 01 in the
logos.
Neo explains to Trin that he finally understands what needs to be done
and tells her about the three lines hes dreamed about. Trinity discovers
the power transmission lines and they follow them. Neo battles the
sentinels along the way with his mind.
Smith enters the oracles apartment and takes her over at which point he
apparently becomes aware of the Oracles plan for bringing about a truce.
The hammer returns to Zion just in time to meet the threat of the
sentinels approaching the gate. The kid is fighting them off in what
appears to be the last of the APU's(mecha). The hammer fires its EMP and
the newest sentinel threat seems to be abated.
The council meets and everyone explains what is happening with neo and
01. Hammans and the commander agree that the only hope now is to believe
Morph was right about the prophesy. the Mjolnir returns and they all
board it in a last ditch effort to hold off the sentinels till Neo
reaches 01.
Meanwhile Neo and trin are constantly being attacked by sentinels as they
appraoch the machine city. finally they are overcome by some huge
machines and the logos crashes. The sentinels scan the wreckage and find
Trin dead and Neo severly injured. The sentinels drag neos body to a kind
of huge mainfram and jack him into it.
At the same time the mjolnir is fighting off the sentinels still
attacking zion, but they are now all over the ship and hamman and the
commander are killed by the sentinels defending the kid. Morph comforts
Niobe and they kiss.
Neo has a long dialogue with the machine intelligence in a place which is abate
obviously not real. The machines explain that he was unexpected but not
unaccounted for. He says he can destroy smith if they will let the human
minds still jacked in continue to exist and call off the destruction of
zion. The machine tries to argue at which point other machine voices pop
in and explain the stagnant of living this way. They agree to Neo's
offer and they jack him into the matrix.
Morph is about to fire the EMP onboard the mjolnir when link sees that
Neo is IN the matrix Morph holds off and the sentinel cease their attack.
Morph looks at the screen and says "oh trinity......Neo...he fights for
us...all of us".
Neo faces down smith in the raining streets. they fight and talk and
Smith explains his feeling of freedom and about death. Neo wins at first
but is eventually overcome by Smith. Smith does to Neo what Neo did to
smith in the first movie taking him over. At which point the machines
unplug Neo destroying smith and all of his clones as well.
The kid collapses in the mjolnir, and the matrix code changes suddenly.
Morph checks the kids vitals and he is dead. In the architects room you
see the architect being taken over like an agent taking over a human who
is plugged in. Suddenly the kid sits there looking bewildered then
determined.
A teeming city is seen humans running all over doing their business.
Morpheus and niobe walk the streets together. Morpheus says "she
prophesied that i would find the one" Niobe says "you did indirectly"
Morpheus smiles and says "Neo found...helped him find himself...It's not
over yet" she responds "let them dream Morpheus" to which he replies
"sometimes all we have is dreams...Faith" she kisses him "faith or truth
its all the same". He says "I dreamed I was a man...is it evolution or
revolution?"
Zoom towards the machine intelligence and then inside then down some
wires then to a smiling kid and finally down a street in the matrix to
Morpheus and Niobe and behind them an agent. " I see them now. I will
maintain contact....."
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warning spoiler!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

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where did you find this at??

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xzaust.com...


it has pictures from all of the trailers, too.

EMP posted this synopsis a while ago.

I think it may be close, but the end is definitely not jiving with Wachowski-ness.

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Not to burst your bubble folks, but I think you'll find the plot spoiler is correct (ending included) this is now the third source I've found which says much the same thing - one of the others can be found (bizarrely enough) as a customer review on amazon.com. I suspect this is all information leaked out from test screenings and unless the ending has tested badly I think we can expect Neo and Trinity to die as reported and the film to end with a stalemate between man and the machines. Gutted. Surprised too - thought the Wachowskis wouldn't let down their audience so badly - ah well.

Deac.

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And how can Neo stop the sents?

in-my-opinion.org...

ebooks-download.com...
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Bullshit!  

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Denial is the most predictable of all human responses... but seriously folks:

Just because the same script summary is found in three places or more does not lend it anymore credibility than if it were only found at one site. In fact a virtually identical script only points to one source- if two people had written summaries there would be different information included in each version because people think differently from each other. Look at us- we all saw the same movies and come here and post all kinds of things some noticed and others didnt. Finding the script at more than one place only means someone copied it from one place and pasted it somewhere else. Now, if you found three different scripts in three different places that all mentioned different information in them, yet still managed to collaborate with each other on the basics and managed not to contradict each other- then you'd have some evidence it might be true. So far, I see no reason to believe it as anything but some hack writer's hoax.

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Especially the really stupid end with agents following Morph and Trin. If Kid is Architecting, I think he would use agents for something else.

This script has some plausibility, but is totally not completely accurate.

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StaticAge wrote:

Look at us- we all saw the same movies and come here and post all kinds of things some noticed and others didnt.


Yeah, I can see what you're saying but what is posted here is a plot summary, not the philosophies behind it. I don't think different people saw different plots in M1 and M2, although lots of people didn't understand them.

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There's a weakness with this plot summary, folks. Here it is:

Quote:

Morph and trin jack out as bane/smith attack the crew with the plasma gun. Link gets overcome and bane attacks Neo while he is still jacked in.

Morph kills bane as Neo jacks out and realizes he is blind due to the
attack.


Unless the trailers we've seen are pure bunk, this account of the events cannot be true. In the extended trailer, Neo confronts Smith in his human guise. Remember when Smith says "Look past the flesh, and see your enemy!" There's also a snippet showing Neo and Smith struggling over the plasma gun thing.

Doesn't necessarily mean this plot summary is false, but I think there ought to be some doubt cast upon it based on this poor handling of a relatively important story element.

But maybe it's just me?

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Maybe it's just fan-fiction.

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There are parts to this that are pretty plausable and others that aren't at all, but why does the Kid become the architect just like that? I can't see that making sense in any way and that appears to be the conclusion of the three movies according to this post.

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I can't see any logic for the Kid becoming any sort of Architect replacement, either. I'm not sure why his apparent self-enabled escape of the Matrix makes him qualified to run a virtual world where he would have to be able to control virtually every facet of human existence, etc. This is one of the assertions made in the plot summary that just seem to ring false. It's almost too much of a 'touchy feely' aspect with regards to the Wachowski brothers' style.

Also, upon further review of the "Help" trailer, it does appear that the 'Machine King' thing (whatever you choose to call it) explodes in front of Neo (you can verify this yourself by visiting the Matrix site, clicking on Breaking News and looking at the splash screen image for the Help trailer - it's definitely exploding in some form or fashion). If nothing else, this seems to indicate some sort of confrontation between Neo and the Machine-King.

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I don't know guys...this sounds pretty plausible to me. It fits a few ot the criteria that most people expect from Revolutions.

1) Something unexpected (I haven't seen any theories along these lines)
2) that someone major i.e. Neo or Trinity would die
3) That the humans and machines cant live without each other.

It's funny how we get caught up in debating 2 major theories and then when this new idea shows up, it is totally dismissed. Everyone keeps saying on both sides of the MiM theory that they hope it is not the way it ends, but dismiss this one immediately.

You have to step back and look at the big picture I think. This is just a hollywood movie trilogy after all. Most of the public is not schooled in eastern religeon, philosophy, mythology, theology, numerology, programing, etc... and will never even know that so many theories were ever even debated by a small group of techies on the internet. The W bros, I think, included all the cool details and throught provoking questions for us intellectual types, but will have the major plot easy to understand and accept by the masses just as in the first 2.

After all, in M1 and M2, there were really simple plot lines to understand i.e. the idea of a matrix and what it is in M1, and the systems of control and Neo's purpose in M2. But they took two movies and a lot of repeating the same thing to do it. Go back and watch M1. You will see how the idea of the matrix is hammered into the audiance over and over so that we get it. And in M2, I don't think they could have said more to polorize the ideas of choice, purpose, free will and destiny. They realize that the mass public is dense so it has to be hammered in to them. Most of them will only see each movie once. Now in the repetition is where they have mad it fun for the minority. I just don't think the 3rd movie will be some unbelievable mind bending oh my god no one ever thought of that ending.

Also, do you really think all the questions asked on this and similar forums will be answered by M3? I don't because that's what the W bros wan't. They like philosophy, inteligence, thought, etc... I think this ending could be the real thing because it would make the trilogy end in balance but with many implications and questions. That is what most philosophy and religeons teach anyway. Balance, symbiosis, working together, self sacrifice etc... I think it fits.

Do I believe in the MiM? I really like it as a sci-fi plot, but it does seem too far out there for the masses. Also, I think it would dissapoint too many people.


Anyway, this is just my $0.02. This is my first post by the way but i have been reading this and many forums for awhile so go easy on the bashing that is to come...lol.

Thanks for listening.

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I can understand why you might think this is a valid script summary, Piranha, but keep in mind the discrepencies in the official trailers and the script summary itself. I find it hard to believe that an event as important as Neo's and Bane/Smith's confrontation would just be glossed over as the script summary has done.

I'm sure there are elements in this script summary that probably are accurate; the best lies contain some degree of truth, after all. But too much of it rings false.

I will say this - if this script summary is entirely accurate, I'm going to be very displeased. The bit about the Kid becoming the Architect is simply too happy-happy-touchy-feely-Disney-movie-like and the manner in which Trinity just happens to die, no big deal, etc. really bites. Plus, the nature of Neo and Smith's battle and its conclusion just stinks.

BTW - After typing that, it occurred to me another scene in one of the trailers shows Neo standing in the crater after his battle with Agent Smith. Makes me wonder whether Neo actually wins that battle or not.

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Did anyone of you think about time loops?

If
a) Zion is in a Matrix
b) The Matrix is deteriorating
c) glitches in the matrix are sometimes visible as time glitches (black cat deja vu in Matrix 1)

then there could be time loops as I mention at

matrix-explained.com...


Thus in one version Neo is blinded while jacked in, in the other one he fights Bane.

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That would seem to defy the two previous movies, wouldn't it, Knnknn? Time for humans in the matrix seems to be completely linear - how else would they perceive the black cat as being "deja vu?" In other words, if the humans were affected by a "time loop" then they wouldn't even notice there was something wrong with the cat. They'd have looped right along with it.

Also, it would seem the script summary would mention such a time loop because it'd have to be a huge part of the plot, but maybe it's just me?

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Anonymous wrote:

In other words, if the humans were affected by a "time loop" then they wouldn't even notice there was something wrong with the cat. They'd have looped right along with it.

Maybe only a part of the area is timejumpy. As seen in the haunted house in Animatrix.

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Possibly. But it seems to me that the things that were affected by the "deja vu" are things that are not independently sentient, such as cats, birds, etc. Humans seem, in all cases, to be able to discern the nature of the "jumpy" time. If you can notice it, you can't be a part of it, etc.

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One of the trailer also shows a clear sky in the real world but none of these spoilers explain about that!

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ephe wrote:

none of these spoilers explain about that!

They never explain Neo's powers, too.

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how can neo die in revolutions when MATRIX ONLINE is set in the matrix after Revolutions and if you read the info availible on the game the matrix is glitching and is full of PLAYERS, AGENTS AND... HORDS OF NEO'S! Cool

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If this is correct, if the kid is the one, the the prophecy about Trinity falling in love with the one is wrong, and to make the oracle not have valid info sucks, because so many loose end would be tied up by saying, yeah well the oracle really didnt know. Pretty gay if thats the ending. Not a huge fan at all. 3Tooth

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The KID is not the one!  

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if you look in some of the other forums i read one about the kid being the one or not as the case may be and the gist of what they are saying is:

The one is not just an anomoly the one is a certain anomoly which meets certain criteria Neo has met this criteria so he follows the path to reload the matrix the one is what the arhitect is looking for so if anyone would realise that neo wasn't the one and in fact it was the Kid it would be him in short:

NEO=THE ONE
KID=?anomoly of another kind?

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Quote:

The one is not just an anomoly the one is a certain anomoly which meets certain criteria Neo has met this criteria so he follows the path to reload the matrix the one is what the arhitect is looking for so if anyone would realise that neo wasn't the one and in fact it was the Kid it would be him in short:

NEO=THE ONE
KID=?anomoly of another kind?


I think the significance of the Kid's self-escaping from the Matrix can be explained in the Architect's speech. To whit ...


Quote:

The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.


I think this could explain some of the anomolies we've witnessed. Neo's mere presence should, by his very nature, mean that weirdness should be occurring.

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The kid collapses in the mjolnir, and the matrix code changes suddenly.
Morph checks the kids vitals and he is dead. In the architects room you
see the architect being taken over like an agent taking over a human who
is plugged in. Suddenly the kid sits there looking bewildered then
determined.
A teeming city is seen humans running all over doing their business.
Morpheus and niobe walk the streets together. Morpheus says "she
prophesied that i would find the one" Niobe says "you did indirectly"
Morpheus smiles and says "Neo found...helped him find himself...It's not
over yet" she responds "let them dream Morpheus" to which he replies
"sometimes all we have is dreams...Faith" she kisses him "faith or truth
its all the same". He says "I dreamed I was a man...is it evolution or
revolution?"
Zoom towards the machine intelligence and then inside then down some
wires then to a smiling kid and finally down a street in the matrix to
Morpheus and Niobe and behind them an agent. " I see them now. I will
maintain contact....."


I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND the above paragraphs.... I read the entire "plot" and understand everything until this point.... what the hell is this guy saying? Can someone explain this clearly...?

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