»Proof that reloads occur in the Matrix«

For the few of you who do not believe that the Matrix reloads:

Many exiles--more than we had believed prior to the truce--have discovered ways to shelter themselves during the system reintegration that occurs during a reset of the Matrix.

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Akshat Gupta wrote:

For the few of you who do not believe that the Matrix reloads: Many exiles--more than we had believed prior to the truce--have discovered ways to shelter themselves during the system reintegration that occurs during a reset of the Matrix. - From thematrixonline.com...

Just one more thing ... Reseting the matrix means that there is no need for neo To RESET the matric and he will lose his greatness as a hero in the Movix

The reloads take place when the One reaches the Source. Thats the point.

Akshat Gupta wrote:

The reloads take place when the One reaches the Source. Thats the point.

which never happend , and it reloaded only at the end of M3

Ehhh! Was that a brain fart?

Do you not know that there have been many versions of the Matrix? And everytime the One emerges, the system gets closer to a crash. When the One reaches the Source, the system reloads.

This is all very well, but the only thing they need the one to reset is the anti-one (in this case, Smith). They are quite capable of reloading things without Neo and this is shown in M1 by the deja vu. The reload at the end is also a kind of deja vu since we see a black cat there too to illustrate this.

I think I get it...

I still dont. Fatty, why do you insist that the deja vu is the same thing as the reload? The deja vu is just when they change something small. The reload is more significant because it rids the system of the anomaly (temporarily) and stabalizes the equations (also temporarily).

If there's no link between the deja vu and the reload, why did they use the black cat to illustrate both of them? It seems to me that the black cat in M3 is used precisely because they want us to see a link between the two.

Why do you think they used a black cat in M3?

I also think that there's an link between the two black cat's. But couldn't it be just coincidence?

The black cat comes in when they change something, right? Well, in the case of the deja vu (M1) they changed something [small] so the cat came. In M3, they also change something [this time big] so the cat still comes.

The point is that the cat shows the significance that the machines have changed something.

Once the machines have reloaded the Matrix, they have changed something. (M3).
But once they have changed something they haven't NECESSARILY reloaded. (M1).

Make sense?

The point is that they didn't really RELOAD in M1.

The point is that whenever they change anything, deja vu is a possible symptom, whethere it is a large change or a small change.

Ditto.

And the thing in M1 was a small change.
The end of Revolutions was a big change- a reload- which occurs after the One reaches the Source.

So the amount that changes differs. I agree with that much. It is certainly true that what changes after Neo defeats Smith occurs all over the matrix, however that hardly makes it a reload.

Surely you don't think a reload is a 'big change'? That's not what reload means. Reload means shutting down and rebooting and that simply did not happen!

Then maybe restart? Reboot? Whatever you want to call it. The point is that they stopped it....and started it over again from the beginning. Restarted the cycle.

I doubt The Matrix: Restarted sounds as cool as The Matrix: Reloaded.

What did they restart? When did any restarting happen?

But they didn't restarted in M1, did they?

NO! I'm talking about M3. The reload/restart at the end of M3. Now read my post again-

Then maybe restart? Reboot? Whatever you want to call it. The point is that they stopped it....and started it over again from the beginning. Restarted the cycle.

I doubt The Matrix: Restarted sounds as cool as The Matrix: Reloaded.

Akshat Gupta wrote:

For the few of you who do not believe that the Matrix reloads: Many exiles--more than we had believed prior to the truce--have discovered ways to shelter themselves during the system reintegration that occurs during a reset of the Matrix. - From thematrixonline.com...

You mentioned it yourself...resetting and reintegration

Neo, nor any of the previous Ones, does not reload or reboot anything.

A reload sounds almost like a reboot and that is indeed bad. It's a temporary shutdown like fatty said; and as the Matrix shuts down it kills the people connected to it.

What the One does is reintegration with the running system (which is major version no. 3 as we know). He merges his code back into the prime program, compensating for the remainder caused by the disobedience of the program.
What happens then is a reset of the Matrix. Resetting is someting different than reloading or rebooting; it is jumping back to the beginning, to a zero-value. That's why the Architect says: the anomaly is revealed...as both beginning and end.

Neo makes up the balance and let's the Matrix, and most importantly it's equation, start at zero-value again. People might 'suffer' a memory-loss with this procedure, we don't know that for sure. But what I do know for sure is that the Matrix does not reload/reboot.

Because Neo reintegrated with the system differently than the other Ones (he had the 'guts' to face the anti-one and took him with him to the Source), this results in a major change this time.

Yes thats what I meant. I didn't know the difference between reload and reintegration. But I agree with your thoughts, Mobil. We'll call it reintegration or reset from now on.

PS- The previous anti-Ones didn't reach the Source? Why is that?

The other ones DID reach the source. They just went to the source by a different route - through the Architect's door.

So now we have the term reintegration we can see it as follows:

In M1, reintegration in just one small section of the matrix. Deja vu is produced.

In M3, reintergration throughout the entire system. Deja vu cat appears again.

Both integrations, but one is a bigger and more important than the other.

I still think that the cat just symbolizes the Architect is cleaning up the mess made by Smith.

"Deja vu happens when they change something in the Matrix"

Neo's integration made the huge change. When the mess is being cleaned up, the core/prime program of the Matrix has already been changed by Neo. They (probably the Architect) are just cleaning up the environment by coding it, hence the appearrance of the deja-vu-cat

Fatty, you're gonna have to READ a bit carefully. I didn't asked whether the previous Ones reached the Source or not. Of course they did. I asked about the anti-Ones.

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PS- The previous anti-Ones didn't reach the Source? Why is that?

Agreed on reintegration and whatever. The exact reason why the cat appeared we will never know who gives a ****. Doesn't really matter. What matters is that something changed.

Mobil, what about the previous anti-One thing?

How do you know the previous anti-ones didn't reach the source. For all we know, they DID reach the source!

The cat appeared because something changed (actually a LOT changed). So we're agreed then? There wasn't a reload?

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How do you know the previous anti-ones didn't reach the source. For all we know, they DID reach the source!

Thats what I'm trying to ask Mobil Ave Neo, my friend.

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The cat appeared because something changed (actually a LOT changed). So we're agreed then? There wasn't a reload?

It wasn't a reload. But it was a reintegration or resetting of the system.