»Is there any significance to the Oracle's Bracelet?«

I didnt say I doubted the philosophical aspects to the movies. The Oracle demonstrates how the machines are living beings - similar in conscienceness to the humans. Just didnt see any great significance to the candy other than plot development of what I stated before.

jesus had lembas bread, that's how he fed all those people, because he had just seen giladriel, and she gave him a new robe. wait a minute, nevermind.

so oracle is like the gnostic knowledge bringer (whatever name it is, oh yeah, Lucifer= Light Bringer) and Sophia the mother. and Merv is like what, the devil? satan?

Lucifer= Light Bringer
Satan= Enemy

so are satan and lucifer the same being as christianity says?

esc you lost me.

Who's Sophia?

Sophia is the mother of the matrix, er the mother of the Demiurge who created our world

demiurge- created world, thinks he is god but isn't

those who are more familiar with gnostic texts can say more

Sophia Stewart?

That's yet to be proven in court.

funny her name is that, but no, i mean SOPHIA, from Gnosticism, not a person

some research later...gotcha.

hmmmm...

Yeah, i know this thread is supposed to be about this bracelet (did it turn out to have ying-yangs on it after all that?), but all this talk about the red sweets (and cookies and smoking etc.) has got me thinking that maybe the oracle represents the snake!

If anyone has looked into gnosticism then they will know that in the gnostic book "the apocryphon of John" the snake is actually a good character!

Here's my gnosticism page. I'm intending to update the matrix symbolism page so maybe I'll do that today. There are some good links there tho:

gogle, frooble, lurch...much too early in the morning for all this trancendental talk

Where I live, you posted that at quarter to four in the afternoon!

thats kinda what i was saying in the earlier post, oracle is snakey, except i didn't say snakey

I didn't mean just LIKE a snake. I meant she is THE snake. The one from the Adam and Eve story.

Just as the Architect is Yaldabaoth (The Demiurge), Neo is Christ and Merv and Persephone are Adam and Eve.

...was an icon of wisdom as well as the guardians of the iniciatic knowledge.

Somehow, the sakes were smashed in britain (remember the saint who was supposed to have killed all the snakes there? well, research about the druids and how they were slaughtered by Julius Caesar and then you'll got a clue and a link)...

As the weel of time turned and a new rule rised, the guardians of the past order were taken down - from liberators they passed to be seen as the enemy. For freeyng the human mind to temptators.

Maybe it's just a matter of perspective, but the ancient past ones needed a bit more aknoledgement. A small research may show you the serpent in south america, in babilon, greece, western celtic cultures and esoteric medieval orders (the last stand of theyr public life untill they passed into anonimous life - the Knights Templars builded a few churches with the lamb with part of snake's body - funny but the church didn't like it as much - in October 1307 they were sent in to the fire... pitty)

snakey <--- nick name of the snake, duh

sheesh

Inevitability said about children loving candy.
In M1 Morpheus says about Neo being to old to be freed, and how he prefers to set children free.
Just a thought.

Mentalz37 wrote:

Red and Green are the two major Christmas colors. Perhaps there is some connection there?

Maybe so but from an artist's perspective, I consider the prevalence of red and green as representing opposite forces. Red and Green are opposites on a color wheel. So to me this represents the good/evil struggle.

I'd also like to add that I found this post by Lusiada about "World Record" from Animatrix~~see here~~>http://www.matrix-explained.com/php/about-the-matrix-movies-3669.html&highlight=cross

Quote:

Finally (but not least) - the woman (who's a reporter on the story) and who says that believes in Dan Davis has a hair that - obviously - is absolutelly out of the rest of the references from the episode - red hair... Guess who was said to have this hair colour?... Mary Magdala... Another Gnostic one...

Which points out another significance and/or reference for the color red at least.

The Architect said that the Oracle was a program developed to investigate the human psyche and that it found a way to get anomlies to accept the programming by offering them a choice of some type.

I believe that the Oracle uses cookies and candies as a way to hack into the receiver's programming, just like a cookie in your computer. beleive the cookies and candy are that choice.

It's an easy trick since everyone likes sweet things, especially people who are independant of the matrix do not get to eat yummy foods.