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»ZION .. the name .. and where its really exist«

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ZION .. the name .. and where its really exist  

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first of course u know what the name ZION is , beside the underground thing... its the people who r gathering them self to live in the Promised land of god ... now.. check the Ani matrix...check where the o1 city is .. see where the camera takes u ... yes its PALASTINE or ISREAL whatever, the promised land which have ZION.

what do u think ? or if anyone have his own theory about it ... and for these people who r good in plans ,, at the Merv Club when trin,morphues and Seraph went to it , the Table infront of MERV , it seems to me as a PLAN of something.. a country ot place not sure,,didnt look fo it yet in the MAP...any ideas ?

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Coul it be Sinai ?  

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I check out the MAP... the closest thing to it i think its SAINAI without palastine..only SAINAI , and if u put the map as it looks like on the table uand put mark on the map as the BIG galss u'd propably find that the place on the map has aholly place .. i think the place Jesus was born or something like that i dunno !


beside that the 2 black lines on the both sides of the table could be the RED sea as exactly its on the map...any Ideas ?

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uhhh, man this is kind of scaring me!

the more i get to know the less i know if i want it to be continued Gumpred

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can you please get me a picture of that scene.... i donīt have the ability to do Smile

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Animatrix , M2  

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in the Animatrix when they were talking about the MACHINE city 01 , the camira showed us a main view for the planet and then the camira took us into PALASTINE or ISRAIL .

in M2 right after Trinity says I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS SHIT and keep fighting..when the trin catch the gun pointed it to merv and the camera show a sence from up on the whole situation, once u c this table click PUASE and compare it with the SaINAI map ( not all of egypt only SAINAI) and make sure u bring a big map for this city only (dont consider PALASTINE , only SAINI) and tell me what u think

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i mean can you post it here because iīm in switzerland right now and donīt have the dvd here with me

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im sorry  

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im really sorry but its not possible to take a PRINT SCREEN for a movie even when its in the normal view ! really sorry...

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Yes it is....  

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With Paint Shop Pro you can take screen captures.

Unfortunately no one can be told what The Matrix is...You have to see it for yourself.
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well..  

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okay but i meant in normal cases , coz i dont have the program !

and i was wondering if anyone saw it and checked it out ?

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no but i will thanks for the thought!

"Dreams awaken more than our self awareness, they awaken our self-indulgence"-Me
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Can you ?  

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Can you check it out for use AGENT ZERO ? i'd like to know ur opinion ..coz im not sure really about it

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I'll try to find it Cool



but I won't ...

"... I do not see coincidence. I see providence. I see purpose."
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yep hold on im doing it....there is no plan on the coffee table its just the design of the table, its white and dark, thats all. sorry kiddo. I think this theory is interesting. 01 is modeled after isreal because alot of the simular things between 01 and isreal like there denial in the un to become a nation. i think they did that on purpose but i see no map on the table.

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Agent Zero wrote:

....there is no plan on the coffee table its just the design of the table

For those who like to judge for themselves...

matrix-explained.com...

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The Merovingian's table  

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I think it's just the design of the table.

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yes it seems its just the design!

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I looked at alot of these places for indication of extra special meanings too, but no background knowledge clicked anything except just the possibility of maps.

Merv club shows just the table but graphically setup either with or without meaning.
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I looked at the smashed wall in Mobil too. It looked like a city map.
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The Oracle on Neo's last visit has the spoon, margarine, & several other things leading to flour containers, etc. I thought gave a crude representation of 'map' of the 3 powerlines & leading to Machine city & source.

I think is set that way on purpose but still is fairly weak.
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I was wondering IF there's a place, Sinai, Israel, or other etc. in that 'birth of man' spot that has the MOUNTAIN topography depicted in M3 or not?
(Only reason Neo may can 'SEE' the mountains would be from his premonition earlier, but still he seems AS IT he is literally seeing them from the Logos which I find a bit strange?)

Travelling while podless I found a baby sentinal & put it in my fishtank. It had sunglasses on but now they're off. It's in the Power of BELIEF!
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there pretty big and he can see in gold so he probably just saw them....i dont know is that waht your talking about?

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I double checked some, is why asked that. Around Machine City is depicted REAL MOUNTAINS not the line of protector creatures in front. Neo can see machines, the line of them in front of the mountains.

I don't see how he could see the REAL MOUNTAINS (but then I left my sunglasses at home, dammit). Neo responds AS IF he's really seeing the physical mountains when they approach, leaving the premonitionary vision he had somewhat inconsequencial to the question.

He could've seen the line of machines & mountains in his premonition, but the way it's depicted it's saying : Neo: "beyond those mountains there"...like HE SEES THEM FOR REAL.

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Here's an unthoughtout interesting idea: zion is INSIDE the machine city pod towers or in that area below ground. The inside of zion looks alot like how the INSIDE of the pod towers might look.

The pods you see on the outside in machine city & then inside those towers are the connections for the 2nd construct, aka zion.

Hamman says 'we are connected to them'...all the little apts. look just like pods in a sense, the tubular construction looks about the same as those surface pod towers & are many other similarities.

On the 'balance' thing the stalctites, stalagmites, etc. of the Temple kind of looks like the machine cityscape turned upside down. All kind of turned inside out or outside in. All the little lights at night look like sky w/architect. The arched NeoTrin lovenest the way is shown appears to go into smaller & smaller concentric dimensions until dissapears into bright light...like saying also is connected to source.

I'm thinking maybe the matrix itself exists all on & in those pod towers; you just can't see it w/the naked eye.

I am only messing w/Agent_Zero's head here, merely a simulation.

The whole matrix thing itself really seems more like just a Machine A.I. simulation run to determine some data.

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First of all, someone said it was M2 where Trinity says "I don't have time for this shit" when it is blatantly M3.

Secondly, the place where Zero One is shown in the animatrix is the same place as Zion is believed to be in real life. That is Israel. The fact the the real Zion for the humans is somewhere else unspecified is probably meaningful.

Thirdly, feel free to prove me wrong, but it seems to me that if the table IS a map, it could be a map of anywhere...

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yah....it could be of anywhere if its a map!

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Neo: "beyond those mountains there"...like HE SEES THEM FOR REAL.


No, he saw the mountains in his vision while in the Hammer. When he is seeing the rest of the picture in Neo-Vision on the Logos, he just assumes that the same mountains are there.

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zion is INSIDE the machine city pod towers or in that area below ground.


Ummm....no. Zion is 4 km beneath the surface of the Earth.

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The pods you see on the outside in machine city & then inside those towers are the connections for the 2nd construct, aka zion.


Give up your futile quest for Matrix within a Matrix.

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The whole matrix thing itself really seems more like just a Machine A.I. simulation run to determine some data.


As the Architect would say, please.

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Akshat Gupta wrote:

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Ummm....no. Zion is 4 km beneath the surface of the Earth.


I've been thinking about that for some time now. That would mean Zion is only 2.4856 miles down from the surface. That doesn't seem that deep. Is this an error on the part of the Bros. or am I wrong about this?

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4 Km.  

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I think 4 Km is pretty deep....think about digging 4,000 meters.

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