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»is the oracle green or gold code?«

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I never suggested that Neo radiated anything other than green light! What I was suggesting was that the light he was radiating follows the same pattern as the Oracles...less intense and more green the further from the source....I don't think anyone could deny this!

I have watched the scene many times forwards, backwards, slow, normal speed...etc.

I fail to see how a screen capture could somehow be less accurate than watching the movie in slow mo....?

Are you sure the contrast is not set too high on your tv?....

Even in the very first frame of the scene she is not entirely white (see screen cap above)...she still appears to have a green code underneth it all.

Try watching it and turning the contrast down...if you still disagree then lets just agree to disagree...

Not trying to argue just trying to get to the bottom of this

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oh, oh...gotcha. heh.

green code. white light.

yay!

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Thats it?

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it may be it. maybe not.

i think it's green code and white light.

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I agree,

...but hard to be 100% certain

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I think that the Merovingian would have gold code. Why? It's just a feeling I have, based on the fact that the ancient royal bloodlines that the historical Merovingians are decended from according to the legends about them are said to have consumed a type of powdered gold as a drug. Monatomic powdered gold is supposed to kind of act like the Spice in the DUNE series, expanding your mind and stuff like that. You can buy it in a lot of places that sell holistic drugs, and it was supposedly discovered be the ancient Sumerians.

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So uh, yeah, I think Merv would have gold code. Screwysmile

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Really, never heard of the stuff. Crack does just fine for me.... Thumbup
but maybe he would but i think it would of showed it in the movie because it shows seraph in gold code why wouldnt they do the same when they walk into the resteraunt in the first meeting? just a thought!

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For my explanation of Seraph's gold code vs. the Oracle's green code (an explanation yet to be discussed here), see a new page that I just added to my Matrix ReSolutions site:

matrixresolutions.com...

To see my original post about my new site (which eventually led me to this thread, which caused me to add this FAQ: Green & Gold Code page to my site), here it is:

matrix-explained.com...

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I'm quite convinced that the Oracle's code is gold.
Not once do we see it, because this...

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... is preceded by this...

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It has already been discussed that Neo's reaction upon seeing the Oracle in Reloaded and his: "I'd say you're a program from the machine world; So is he" (Seraph) are a hint.

This is from the shooting script:
Neo stares at her for a moment seeing her code-form which is the same as Seraph's.

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tozy wrote:


This is from the shooting script:
Neo stares at her for a moment seeing her code-form which is the same as Seraph's.


It looks pretty green at those screenies Cool
And it also says 'code-form' not 'code-color'

In that case I agree that it is the same as Seraphs;
code/light emits from the inside out.

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pendaco wrote:

It looks pretty green at those screenies

Yep, but this is not the Oracle as we see Seraph in Reloaded.
This is Smith copying onto the Oracle...

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She's golden. No doubt about it.

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Tozy,

Thanks for pointing out those two factors (that the Oracle was only shown after Smith started copying, and especially the shooting script which I didn't even think to check).

And dang it, Tozy's logic caused me to change my mind AGAIN about gold code (it sure is a lot of trouble to change your mind when "your mind" is plastered all over a website!). So, I deleted the FAQ: Green vs. Gold Code page, and elaborated a bit on gold code on the following two pages:

Oracle page:

matrixresolutions.com...


and

Seraph page:
matrixresolutions.com...


(I'll also add wake_up_neo's symbolic Buddhist enlightenment bit into the Seraph page - it's only temporarily gone.)

Thank you so much everyone - keep the feedback coming!

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Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

She's golden. No doubt about it.


Then why is Neo surprised when he sees Seraph in the Tea House?
Or are we supposed to believe that Neo didnt visit the Oracle in the time between the end of M1 and the begin of M2?


tozy wrote:


This is from the shooting script:
Neo stares at her for a moment seeing her code-form which is the same as Seraph's.


But does this say anything about the color? (im getting Max314 flashbacks about shooting scripts over here Razz)

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pendaco wrote:

Or are we supposed to believe that Neo didnt visit the Oracle in the time between the end of M1 and the begin of M2?


It certainly seems that way at the beginning of Reloaded. Remember, Neo goes to her long abandoned apartment looking for her, but she's apparently been missing.

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pendaco wrote:

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

She's golden. No doubt about it.


Then why is Neo surprised when he sees Seraph in the Tea House?
Or are we supposed to believe that Neo didnt visit the Oracle in the time between the end of M1 and the begin of M2?

That is correct.


pendaco wrote:

tozy wrote:


This is from the shooting script:
Neo stares at her for a moment seeing her code-form which is the same as Seraph's.


But does this say anything about the color? (im getting Max314 flashbacks about shooting scripts over here Razz)


code-form :

In the code world, Neo sees his true form; sitting Buddhalike in the surrounding swirl of code, a being of pure liquid light contained by a web of Matrix code that is written in the negative or rather with the absence of light.


From script.
And that is how Neo saw the Oracle..
a being of pure liquid light contained by a web of Matrix code that is written in the negative or rather with the absence of light.

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pendaco wrote:

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

She's golden. No doubt about it.


Then why is Neo surprised when he sees Seraph in the Tea House?
Or are we supposed to believe that Neo didnt visit the Oracle in the time between the end of M1 and the begin of M2?


Also remember that the Oracle tells Neo at the very beginning of the conversation that she's not going to bite. That's because this is the first time Neo has seen her gold code, and he doesn't know quite what to think about her at first.

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