»is the oracle green or gold code?«

that's it...that's my question right there

Simple question, simple answer: Green.

proof? is seraph the only gold code then?

When Agent Smith assimilates 'the Oracle' in Revolutions the view switches to 'Matrix Vision' for a second - and yes she is green.

No wait The Oracle and Seraph are bith gold but because Smith was copping himself into the Oracel she was green

Don't think I agree with that ghost. As Smith is assimilating 'the Oracle' he had only 'taken over' her arm before we see 'matrix vision' and when it switches back Smith has still not totally finished taking over 'the Oracle'. If she had 'gold code' then we would have seen it during the matrix vision shot...even if it was being overwritten with green.

When we first see the matrix vision shot the subject is still more 'the Oracle' than Smith....it would make no sense to me that we see no gold code at all in that shot if in fact the Oracle was suppossed to have gold code.

Actually now that I think about it ur do have a point weel then my sourcers are worng now I have to bitch at them

why is seraph the only one with gold code then? any theories? well neo's code isn't gold either...check back when he pulls the bullet out of trinity...

isn't he supposed to be from a wery old version of the Matrix?...possibly the first one right?

..so maybe his code is more primitive..or something...
...Just a theory

maybe it was written in gold code? therefore seraph and merv are gold

Theseus wrote:

As Smith is assimilating 'the Oracle' he had only 'taken over' her arm before we see 'matrix vision' and when it switches back Smith has still not totally finished taking over 'the Oracle'. If she had 'gold code' then we would have seen it during the matrix vision shot...even if it was being overwritten with green. When we first see the matrix vision shot the subject is still more 'the Oracle' than Smith....it would make no sense to me that we see no gold code at all in that shot if in fact the Oracle was suppossed to have gold code.

someone posted a screencap of that scene, and the Oracle's code looked more white than anything else. lemme look for it.

or, slap on the DVD and watch the scene in slow-motion.

i know neos code is green...but it is a shimmering green...(look a t it compared to trinity's when she is brought back to life) it think the oracle's is a radiating green too..compared to smiths...

Why Seraph is gold-

There are some theories-

1. Because Seraph is from the first Matrix version.
2. Because he has been reprogrammed by the Oracle (Saved him from Merv)
3. Because he is an exile.

Symbolism-

1. About the Seraphim angels, it is said that their love for God burned like fire. (Fire=gold)
2. Because Seraph is a firewall

nobody's mentioned the buddhist aspect yet.. and we all know the Wachowskis' fascination with buddhism...

basically when the buddha achieves enlightenment, his soul was supposed to glow gold from within..

also notice in the scene where Seraph's gold code is revealed.. he is sitting in the typical buddha pose.. if u saw that shot completely out of context of the movies, u would be forgiven for thinking it was supposed to be Buddha.

so perhaps it is something to do with enlightenment.. i have to say.. i think a lot about Seraph will eventually be revealed.. the Wachowskis have stated their interest in releasing another video game to explain Seraph's back story.. even if this doesn't happen.. it shows their intention to do further matrix projects (although NOT movies) to give more insight into Seraph, because they made a point of hinting that a detailed history of Seraph has been written.. his involvement with the Merovingian ("the prodigal son returns!").. his background with the Oracle ("I am forever indebted to you") and his crossing of paths with Smith ("I have defeated you before")

Yes Im definitely waiting for a thing on Seraph and am almost positive they have planned something already.

Interesting buddhist aspect. So Seraph is an enlightened soul. Hmm....The One seems to me as the most enlightened human. Atleast at the end of the trilogy. So why Seraph? We'll have to wait for the story.

exactly akshat...i would believe neo to be the ONE with the gold code..but he is not..only seraph...hopefully in the online game...theories on if people think merv has gold code?

Merv?- Only if exiles have gold code. Which I dont think is right anymore.

i think seraph deffinition of being protector of "what matters most" is dead on..at first we see him, he protects the oracle..then he leaves and takes morpheus and trinity to club hel...guarding them to get neo...then when smith comes the oracle stays to be comsumed by smith..while she tells seraph to take sati(the future?) i dunno...but seems like "what matters most" at the time changes throughout the film

on other threads people have stated the future is "what matters most", maybe the new matrix in the end of m3 is all gold code making seraphs purpose to restore the perfect matrix that once was..where his gold code came from... just some thoughts...

The ONE-der Man wrote:

exactly akshat...i would believe neo to be the ONE with the gold code..but he is not..only seraph...

if it was to indicate enlightenment, then that might explain why Neo DOESN'T have gold code, since he only achieves enlightenment at the end of the Super Burly Brawl when he is assimilated by Smith.. and after that, we're not shown a matrix-vision shot.. so that would still be consistent with my theory.

on the Oracle: i watched the scene in Revolutions in slow motion (X8 slowed) in reverse.

she's radiating white light. it's not gold tinged, and it's not green tinged until after Smith's overwriting gets on a ways.

if i had a DVD player on my 'puter, i'd post a screen cap. but if you don't believe me, watch the scene in super-slow mo. she's definetly glowing white.

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she's radiating white light. it's not gold tinged, and it's not green tinged until after Smith's overwriting gets on a ways.

I agree that she is radiating white light but it seems to me that her code is still green!

Take a look the screen captures...
The first one is the first part of the assimilation, the second is half way through, the third is when the Oracle is almost 100% Smith.

Seems to me that it the first two the code is green....what do you think?

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that screenshot isn't from the very very beginning of the scene. there's a very small part of the beginning of that SFX shot where the Oracle is almost completely white light with very little code of any kind on her.

white light.

the best way to see it (i think) is to do it the way that i did. get into the SFX shot, then go backwards in super-slo-mo. i had it going somewhere between 2 and 4 frames a second on a 52" television, and i'm telling you it's white light. *L*

i'll see if i can't get a good pic with the digital camera.

Ok here it is...this is the very first frame that we get to see:

Looking at the screen caps again I'm not sure that we can tell whether it is white light or a very light green.... what I mean is that the light seems to become more green the further away it gets from its source (the Oracle)...this could be a visual effect...it could symbolyse her code is green...it could symbolise nothing...?

Neo radiates a similar intense light in the scene where he revives Trinity...admitidly it is not radiating as it is in this shot....but it does follow the same pattern in that it becomes more green and less intense the further it gets from its source (Neo in this case)

then don't look at the screen caps. watch the DVD in slow motion, backwards.

Neo radiates green light.