»Why Smith could fly in M3«

OK, I have no idea if someone already covered this or not, but I did a search for it and didn't find anything.

In M1, Smith was just an agent, and he only had the abilities of an agent. In M2, Smith had been altered by Neo and could overwrite both people and programs in the Matrix. The memories of those he overwrote stayed with him, proven by his crack to the Oracle in M3 from Sati:
"Cookies need love too" or something like that.

In M2, the Oracle told Neo about how programs govern everything in the Matrix. Once Smith overwrote the Oracle, he knew about these programs, and quite possibly how to find them. So Smith could overwrite the programs that control gravity, weather, basically everything.

Evidence:
Before Smith overwrote the Oracle, Smith only had his original powers and the ability to overwrite stuff. The Matrix appeared stable, and without that greenish tint.
When Neo returns to the matrix for his last battle, the Matrix was chaotic. It was raining heavily and the entire sky was covered in clouds. Plus it picked up a greenish machine code-like tint. Smith could finally fly.

watch the Trilogy again. the Matrix always had the greenish tint.

ALL! WAYS!

Just briefly I considered that of course Smith wants to fly, since Neo can...& that 'orphan' in M1 w/the flying blocks: I'm assuming Smith assimilates EVERYONE in the Matrix & thus acquires all the FLYING ABILITY programs as well.

Also, is obvious this 'cloning' technique of Smith leaves it's victims intact when his structure is destroyed. At least for most, if not all. The Oracle in the pit at the end.

Yeah the Smith having all those abilities, old belief of mine that I'm still 100 percent sure on. Saying "like what i've done to the place" further proves this.

In M1, we here Morph tell Neo that the Agents can dodge bullets and such, and so on and so forth but he says "but they are still in a system based on rules." saying for that purpose they would never be able to accomplish the things Neo could. simply saying, once smith took it over, these rules were broken. it was HIS world now, he did as he pleased. and there were a lot of other things that i had connected that just aren't coming to mind right now. given, i thought of these things at 3AM, but.... yeah i'm just gonna go off to bed now.

It wasn't that it was his world now, it was that he was " no longer an agent of the system" or unplugged, so to speak, so that he was no longer bound by the rules of the matrix.

Guys.

Smith could fly because he was Neo's counterpart. The other end of the equation. When Smith and Neo merged in M1, Neo's code was transplanted onto Smith. At that point, Smith became 'The One' as well.

In M2, Smith was just beginning to grasp his abilities. His powers were still growing.

In M3, Smith assimilated the Oracle and finally grew to understand the potential of his powers. With this knowledge he finally grew to the state where he was a perfect match against Neo.

Super Burly Brawl ensues.

Although I cant fully explain by what means he got his powers, but I can explain HOW he got it. It all has to do with the architects equation. When Neo was still Mr. Anderson, he was 0 and smith was 0, the equation was still balanced. But when Mr. Anderson became the One , He was updated to a 1, thus, unblanacing the equation. But when smith was unplugged, something strange happened. His boDigital self was trying to rebalance the equation . Now smith still was just along the lines of a -.025 or something like that, and he could only build his numbers by infecting the program and lengthening his reach of the matrix, ie, becoming more powerful. So he infected every last thing he could find. after infecting enough programs he was able to accumulate enough infections to gain a one like state (Changing the matrix as he saw fit). Likewise, Neos purpose is to save the matrix, while smiths was to destroy it, thus achieving the -1 state. The fought to the death, and Neo was infected, and Neos RSI was destroyed. Thus the equation was unbalanced again, and the matrix rebalanced itself, killing off smith. I suppose how he was able to gain his flying powers was either by infecting the entire program, or his onelike powers (changing the matrix as he saw fit) Either way, it sounds good.

AzarN wrote:

Smith could fly because he was Neo's counterpart. The other end of the equation. When Smith and Neo merged in M1, Neo's code was transplanted onto Smith. At that point, Smith became 'The One' as well.

i think that this sounds good, but is still wrong. if the answer was as simple as "he con do it because Neo can do it" then why doesn't the same work backwards? Neo can't replicate. or do you think he can?

go here, read matrix-explained.com.... there, i outlined the basic reason for Smith to have any extraordinary powers at all.

then, think back to Smith's talk at Neo...he's compelled to disobey. he's breaking rules. who knows the rules of the Matrix better than an Agent? who better to know how to break them? Smith started by replcating himself, and by the time the end of Revolutions rolls around, the Matrix is his world. he is everyone. he is everywhere. in short, Smith IS the Matrix.

ur all as thick as bricks!
"The program smith has [b]GROWN[/b] beyond ur control... you cannot stop him but i can!"

seeing as in reloaded he said he was "compelled to stay, compelled to disobey" hes saying he wants to stay in the matrix to kill NEO . He can fly because he is growing, taking over all the people in the matrix (eventually)
he has got so much power, he can bend the rules and even break them. he is not an agent anymore!

Zuul, what the hell are you talking about? The equation doesn't have just Neo and Smith. The equation is the equation of the entire Matrix. It needs to be unbalanced because of the choice aspect the Mother of the Matrix implemented. So a continual act of balancing and unbalancing keeps the matrix stable and running.

The growing in "grown beyond your control" could quite easily mean the fact that there are a larger number of Smiths. Growing normally refers to an increase in size, not power. After all, he doesn't say "adapted" or "developed" beyond your control, does he?

You must realise that there are several interpretations and sometimes things are very obvious and sometimes it depends on how you look at them. I think this fits into the latter character. Besides your answer still doesn't explain WHY he can fly. He could only copy himself before.

I personally think that he gains his power from the oracle. I know that only one Smith is attacking Neo, but there is a possibility that he is also the only one that can fly. (That might also explain why none of the others ever give him a hand... *shrugs*) Some have contested this because they don't think the oracle can fly, but do any of us really know what the oracle can do? She is meant to be mysterious isn't she?

Akshat Gupta wrote:

Zuul, what the hell are you talking about? The equation doesn't have just Neo and Smith. The equation is the equation of the entire Matrix. It needs to be unbalanced because of the choice aspect the Mother of the Matrix implemented. So a continual act of balancing and unbalancing keeps the matrix stable and running.

My Mistake! I should have elaborated that it was part of the equation and not just "The Equation". And the mother of the matrix is to unbalance it, But the architect is to balance it, but the equation automatically attempts to rebalance, thats why smith died almost directly after neo.

[quote="Fatpie42"]The growing in "grown beyond your control" could quite easily mean the fact that there are a larger number of Smiths. Growing normally refers to an increase in size, not power. After all, he doesn't say "adapted" or "developed" beyond your control, does he?

You must realise that there are several interpretations and sometimes things are very obvious and sometimes it depends on how you look at them. I think this fits into the latter character. Besides your answer still doesn't explain WHY he can fly. He could only copy himself before.

I personally think that he gains his power from the oracle. I know that only one Smith is attacking Neo, but there is a possibility that he is also the only one that can fly. (That might also explain why none of the others ever give him a hand... *shrugs*) Some have contested this because they don't think the oracle can fly, but do any of us really know what the oracle can do? She is meant to be mysterious isn't she?[/quote]

Emm No i dont think he can fly because he fights as the oracle! he is GROWING BEYOND UR CONTROL - becoming more powerful!
even if there are more clones doesn't mean he wont grow more powerful and i also agree with the statement that when he got something 'imprinted on to me..'

Growing beyond your control doesn't have to mean growing more powerful and I see no reason why it should. Smith has become a virus which is spreading.

Neo's next line, remember, is "Soon he will spread to this place as he has spread through the matrix. You cannot stop him but I can."

Does Neo have the power to stop Smith gaining new skills like flying? Doesn't seem so. However, if Neo can destroy Smith, then Smith won't be able to spread any further through the matrix or to the machine city.

We only ever see Smith flying once he has posessed the oracle. Makes sense to me.... *shrugs*

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i think that this sounds good, but is still wrong. if the answer was as simple as "he con do it because Neo can do it" then why doesn't the same work backwards? Neo can't replicate. or do you think he can? then, think back to Smith's talk at Neo...he's compelled to disobey. he's breaking rules. who knows the rules of the Matrix better than an Agent? who better to know how to break them? Smith started by replcating himself, and by the time the end of Revolutions rolls around, the Matrix is his world. he is everyone. he is everywhere. in short, Smith IS the Matrix.

Neo can't replicate because the ability to replicate is the offshoot of Smith's original transportation method: warping from shell to shell, except now he permanently occupies the shell. He possesses this ability because he is now a rogue program with a new, twisted purpose to destroy, the exact opposite of Neo's chosen purpose, which is to preserve.

Smith and Neo are both parts of the same equation. Two opposite sides of the sum of the remainder of the anomalous equation (which was generated by the zionites chosing to not accept the Matrix). Smith can fly because he has the abilities of Neo now within him, yet he doesn't recognise his potential until he assimilates the Oracle and discovers the extent of the One's power.

This business with Smith getting the powers 'cause he assimilated birds or some other program that flies or can match the One in combat is rubbish.

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My Mistake! I should have elaborated that it was part of the equation and not just "The Equation". And the mother of the matrix is to unbalance it, But the architect is to balance it, but the equation automatically attempts to rebalance, thats why smith died almost directly after neo.

Ah, I see what you mean now. Sorry.

Good job on the preserving and destroying comparison, Azar. I always found it a fascinating contrast. Like this line-

Neo: What do you want?
Smith: I want exactly what you want. I want everything.

Neo wants to preserve everything and Smith wants to destroy everything.

The Oracle said in M3 that Smith is Neo.. "your opposite, your negative, the result of the equation trying to balance itself out." Basically Smith can do whatever Neo can do. He grew stronger and stronger. Thats why Neo sacrafised himself, because he knew it was the only way to destry him, cuz fighting Smith was almost like fighting himself. There would have been no winner.

AzarN wrote:

This business with Smith getting the powers 'cause he assimilated birds or some other program that flies or can match the One in combat is rubbish.

that isn't what i'm saying. i'm saying that Smith's power at the end of M3 is at such a ridiculous level because once he is everyone, it's his world. he can break the rules at will, with impunity.

that's why Neo can fly, isn't it? because "I knew the rules, I understood what I was supposed to do but I didn't."

sound familiar? Morpheus and the other rebels can bend the rules of the Matrix's reality. the One can break them. before, Smith was limited to bending rules, but once he was freed from the system, he started breaking them. this builds on itself until he's at the point he's reached at the Super Burly Brawl.

Well if what you're saying is merely another way of saying that Smith's ability's exist because of his connection with Neo then yes, I agree.

i'm not saying anything about his connection with Neo, unless that connection is manifested as a compulsion to break the rules.

but that could be because of the Oracle and her cookies. something left behind, something overwritten...

Grendelvs wrote:

i'm not saying anything about his connection with Neo, unless that connection is manifested as a compulsion to break the rules. but that could be because of the Oracle and her cookies. something left behind, something overwritten...

Then what is Neo's connection to smith that the oracle speaks of. I doubt it is because they can both break the rules. When Smith speaks of the connection he says "somthing overwritten or copied" like it is a true connection they have with each other, not just the same ability.

spareparts wrote:

Then what is Neo's connection to smith that the oracle speaks of. I doubt it is because they can both break the rules. When Smith speaks of the connection he says "somthing overwritten or copied" like it is a true connection they have with each other, not just the same ability.

PRECISELY

Smith's ability to break the rules stems from the piece of the One code that is transplanted onto Smith when Neo and Smith merge in m1. It makes them two opposing parts of the same equation, both with opposing purposes, both with abilities to acheive this purpose (i.e flying).

Thats it.