»Why Smith died. (Blew up, deleted) My theory«

Remember when the oracle was saying to imbalance the equation, and when Smith is the negative of Neo?
When Neo is alive, it is a balanced equation when the smith is around, when smith took over neo, the equation is imbalanced, smith had no purpose, thats why he got deleted, the machines did nothing apart from plug him in. As there would be nothing left in the matrix, it got rewritten.

When Neo blew up smith (The Matrix), he came back with new powers in Reloaded, this was to balance the equation, but as neo is not a program(more like half of it), thats why Smith came back also, so in my theory who saved Zion? Partly the machines, for stopping the sentinels, neo for arriving at the machine city, and engaging battle, and the oracle, as her purpose was fulfilled in deleting smith. How did he gain new powers after being in the architects room, he was in the source, therefore some of the powers transferred, the gold code is the programs operating in the machines from the green code that he could see in the matrix, that also transferred.

The mystery is, will this happen over and over, over an endless period of time?
Your thoughts please.

The emergence of Smith was the equation ATTEMPTING to get balanced again. When they are together, they are a balanced factor/variable, which then could be solved and spread through the Matrix, making all the other Smiths explode to zero-value.

Just a bit off Topic: (For you Mobil)

Neo is apparently Smiths counter point right?

Neo is the +1 while Smith is the -1 right?

So there is a balance within the Matrix right?

Smith is Neo's equal and opposite right?

How can the equation balance?

There are multiple -1's.

+1 - 1 = 0
0 - 1 = -1
-1 -1 = -2

We'll stop at just two additional Smiths. Even with one additional Smith the equation unbalances to -1.

With all Smiths the equation would be what? -x (x being the population of the Matrix - 1)

It just doesn't sit right with me.

Elaborate Mr Balance Expert.

Marcdaniel wrote:

Neo is apparently Smiths counter point right? Neo is the +1 while Smith is the -1 right?

not necessarily. it really depends on how you look at it. it could be that where Neo is the One, Smith is the Many. the numbers alone suggest this.

Grendelvs wrote:

Marcdaniel wrote: Neo is apparently Smiths counter point right? Neo is the +1 while Smith is the -1 right? not necessarily. it really depends on how you look at it. it could be that where Neo is the One, Smith is the Many. the numbers alone suggest this.

G'day Grendelvs.

I do understand and comprehend what you are saying, but this still doesn't work for me though.

It's all about 'balance'.

Many over power One.
Mutliple over power Singular.

If it's all mathematics that is which is the point of Archie and Orcy balancing equations and unbalancing them isn't it?

The numbers alone suggest this: Just because it happened in the third movie doesn't mean it's accurate. Yes we can accept it and say, yep, that was good and answered it and perfect, or we can question it with logic and find it is flawed.

+1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 recurring doesn't = 0 it ='s a negative therefore unbalanced.

If the +1 is able to overcome and counter all the -1's (which seemed to happen) then that would suggest that the +1 is more powerful than the -1 and wouldn't be accurate as they are apparently opposites and should be exactly equal opposites right?

Marcdaniel wrote:

It's all about 'balance'. Many over power One. Mutliple over power Singular. If it's all mathematics that is which is the point of Archie and Orcy balancing equations and unbalancing them isn't it?

first point, the Many didn't really overpower the One. at least, not during the Burly Brawl. it just kept going and going as a long, drawn-out stalemate. Neo couldn't beat Smiths. then again, the Smiths couldn't beat Neo. same with the stalemate at the end of Revolutions...Neo beat down Smith, Smith beat down Neo, and they both kept getting up. at least, that happens until Neo finally understands.

second point, if the mathematics were as simple as 1 - 1 = 0, then i would agree. however, whatever arcane and advanced "equations" they're using takes into account abstract things like human emotion and choice. i think that One-and-Negative-One is too simplified, which is why i don't buy that there is always a Negative One. i mean, if all of the previous Ones took the door on the right, then why would there be a need for some force to negate the One?

i think that Smith's condition (if you will) is due to manipulations of the Oracle.

Grendelvs wrote:

Marcdaniel wrote: It's all about 'balance'. Many over power One. Mutliple over power Singular. If it's all mathematics that is which is the point of Archie and Orcy balancing equations and unbalancing them isn't it? first point, the Many didn't really overpower the One. at least, not during the Burly Brawl. it just kept going and going as a long, drawn-out stalemate. Neo couldn't beat Smiths. then again, the Smiths couldn't beat Neo. same with the stalemate at the end of Revolutions...Neo beat down Smith, Smith beat down Neo, and they both kept getting up. at least, that happens until Neo finally understands. second point, if the mathematics were as simple as 1 - 1 = 0, then i would agree. however, whatever arcane and advanced "equations" they're using takes into account abstract things like human emotion and choice. i think that One-and-Negative-One is too simplified, which is why i don't buy that there is always a Negative One. i mean, if all of the previous Ones took the door on the right, then why would there be a need for some force to negate the One? i think that Smith's condition (if you will) is due to manipulations of the Oracle.

I was just talking mathematically (many vs one). Achie seems to be based only in math and equations etc.

As per Revolutions apparantly there is a need to force to negate the one. Personally still doesn't sit too well with me.... but that don't matter for this convo at the moment.

Maybe the factor is he's human and smiths a program so the multiple smiths balance the one human?

Smiths is only -1

He has the ability to spread himself around the Matrix. But this is just the utilisation of the anomaly-powers he got from Neo.

They share one conscienceness:

"We missed you" and "We're here to..."

So Smith as a whole is just the negative side of the anomaly-variable.

That makes sense. So would that mean if they are all sharing the same consciousness that they all share the same abilities and thus all of the Smiths are able to fly? (bit off topic but I remember reading about this somewhere)

That one was cracking up my brain a while ago.

It doesn't have to be.

Same conscienceness doesn't mean they share the same memory.

They have a common awareness, just like one-egged-twins can 'feel' each other.

When Neo rams him up in the burly brawl, he says/thinks: "More!"
And more Smiths come running in.

The knowledge and powers they gain by assimilating other programs, are only applied for that particular copy of Smith.

Only the oracle-smith had the visions/predications. He could share the thought that he was going to win. But he couldn't share the entire visions and insights with his copies.

...Also, why would the other Smiths be scared when he just assimilated the Oracle? If they share it all together, they would all see and understand.

Fair enough.