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[Matrix Reloaded] Neo: "The meeting is over, retreat to your exits. Agents are coming."
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The_Matrix_Terminated
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Wake_Up_Neo
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More posts than teeth
Posts: 34
Location: CA
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Hi,
Thank you for the response. I certainly see where you're coming from in your view of Neo being the one. I have looked at it from this very point of view that perhaps the Oracle was not the "good" Oracle that she was potrayed to be. I happen to feel that the movie actually made it pretty clear that she in fact was there as a control program because of her intuative nature. But the feeling I was left with regarding her was that she originally was there to offer a better means of control by the issertion of choice even at a subconcious level into the Matrix. However, being that she was a program of the machines who in fact have AI and are self aware, I feel she to became aware of the true nature of choice. Well she obviously had to in order to create it and have it be effective in the Matrix. I feel that she eventually fell "victim" to her own intuitiveness and made her own choice.
Yes I do believe that she originated the prophesy and that it was rittled with some lies. But I also believe that Neo actually helped her to see the true value of choice. I feel that she came to realize that "real" choice was extremely important. This is what I feel she meant when she told Neo, "well for whatever it's worth...you've made a believer out of me." I think once she realized the importantance of "real" truth and not the manufactured one from her, that she actually turned away from her perpose and began chose to help Neo become the ONE. I think it's obvious that when she said, "I don't know what's going to happen...because know one can see beyond the choices they don't understand..." that this was the first time she had made a "real" choice...one that was not purposed by the machines or dictated by her own logic and reason but it was a pure choice made in "faith"
So I definetly see where you're coming from on this...with this being said I'll respond to you simply like this:
I just did not like the way they ended Revolutions.
I think that the Wachowski Bros. were and are far more capable of an ending that would've been and should've been more clever, pallatable, and artistical.
Take Care
Ron
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"power corrupts but absolute power corrupts absolutely" James Orwell "Animal Farm"
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CYH
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CGI
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Hey, my tenth post!
Posts: 10
Location: Malaysia
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wAkE_uP_nEo wrote: |
You talk about the special effects being poor and you give the example of the APU's in Zion.. comparing it to Aliens.. but the task in hand was much greater for the Matrix team.. while you pointed out how the APUs looked fake because the CGI was obvious.. you have also overlooked that with the exception of the actors inside the APUs.. 90% of EVERYTHING else on the screen.. including the background is also CGI. I always felt that the criticisms of special FX in the sequels have been unfair. People criticised the Burly Brawl in Reloaded for using a digital Neo.. and yes.. its not 100% photo-realistic yet.. but when have you ever seen anything like that? Look back at special effects just 10 years ago and see how much we've come along.. until Reloaded NOBODY had ever been able to employ a digital human in a movie before.. again, in those scene people were always able to point out how Neo looked fake, but failed to realise that there were some shots in there.. which were 100% CGI.. in Revolutions, the siege of zion sequence is nothing like anything which has ever graced a cinema screen.. we're not yet at a stage where you cannot tell the difference, but we are getting there..
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I agree. If you compared the Burly Brawl scene with other movies, the CGI team did a really good job, in my opinion. I mean, compare it to Blade 2 or even the Lord of the Rings (where Legolas was standing on top of the cave troll in Moria). The CGI was really obvious and quite uncomfortable to look at.
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