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Neo's body is alive but his brain is much more like an Ai than a human. Now he mustchoose to return to the Source (since he achieved his purpose, reloading) meaning being deleted, or to come back to the matrix (that's why the Oracle said that we would see him again) just like Seraph did before him.


NYR12,

exiles don't need purpose, that's why they're in the matrix. Watch the movie again and you'll realize that programs hidding in the matrix are those who don't have a purpose.
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Scientheist,

glowing does not mean that you are connected to the AI network because Smith/Bane glows while he's too far to emit any data. Same to Neo, he does not glow even when he's connected to the Matrix or to Deus Ex.

According to me, glowin just means that you are an AI... and glowing a lot means that you are a program born from the source, meaning not born from other programs (like Sati, or cakes/cookies etc.).

Apocryphe wrote:

glowing does not mean that you are connected to the AI network

I used the term "network" very loosely. Sorry for the confusion I created ! My theory is that all the AI are connected in a telepathic connection. An AI (program or sentinel) will see another AI through these orange glows.

Apocryphe wrote:

According to me, glowin just means that you are an AI

Ok with me. My opinion a sentinel will "see" another sentinel using this orange-glow-vision

Apocryphe wrote:

and glowing a lot means that you are a program born from the source

I'm not sure abt that. But Oracle is a very important program. Why does'nt she emit any orange glow ? Why does Seraph emit a glow ? (In my opinion, Seraph touched the source and became enlightened. chk this thread

scientheist wrote:

I'm not sure abt that. But Oracle is a very important program. Why does'nt she emit any orange glow ? Why does Seraph emit a glow ? (In my opinion, Seraph touched the source and became enlightened.

Not being born directly from the source does not mean that you are not important.
According to me, it is highly probable that Seraph was a previous one. Why would such an important program become an exile ? Only programs facing deletion go hidding in the matrix. Each One had to face his deletion once he reached the source, since he had no purpose anymore.

We must not mix up the fact that she's an important character in the story with the fact that she's important for Machines. Anyway, what do you mean by important ? For us, or for the machines ? Because it looks to me that she's rather opposed to the authorities.

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AI are connected in a telepathic connection.

Agreed. Except that it is not a telepathic link but rather a "radio" link.

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Moreover Smith is green inside the matrix while Bane/Smith is orange in the real world. How do u explain that ?

Dont mix up the glowing inside of the matrix and in the real world. In real world, every AI has an orange code-like because that orange thing represent the informations contained by the machine you look at.
The evidence is that Neo sees Bane with a "Smith face", wich is in fact how Smith is seeing himself. Thus, Neo perceive what Smith is perceiving, but in the matrix, Neo sees what the Matrix is showing and that's why it is green coded, because it is the langage of the matrix.

So, Neo sees Bane with a "Smith face" because those are the data sent by Smith. The orange code (opposed to the yellow one) is made of fractals (we see it clearly when Bane/Smith die).

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Why did'nt the hovercraft emit any glow ? (in the other scenes when Trin was flying the ship towards DXM). Note that hovercraft electrical/mechanical machinery and they WILL emit magnetic waves.

But Neo sees only coded waves, or else he would see anything like an infra-red vision. Magnetic waves are only the physical support used to transport informations. All what Neo sees in orange is, in fact, a representation of informations sent by machines.
If a Machine cease to emit data, Neo won't see it.
The hovercraft is not intelligent and thus is not perceived by Neo. However, I guess that Neo can "feel" a great source of magnetic waves like the overcraft's batteries but unfortunetly, they didn't show the batteries room when Neo got his orange vision.
To me, it was done on purpose because I really don't see why Bane was attracting Neo in the empty black room.

scientheist wrote:

The only scene which could suggest the possibility is when he (his body) was dragged off by a machine. That scene cannot be considered since it was contradicted by the very next scene where we see him emiting golden glow. As for the future matrix movies, only time will tell whether there would be or would'nt be any. (We did have prequels to star wars series after ~20 years, did'nt we ?). So, its still anybody's guess.

About the glow.. I don't think we can be sure that it's actually being emitted by Neo.. to me it looks more like the shadowed outline of Neo's body which is surrounded by the glow emitted by the machine that carries him. Either way, you can hardly call this conclusive proof.

If you want more evidence that Neo died, then I will refer you to an interview with Keanu himself:

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Silver is emphatic that this is it, no more movies (although the story may well be pursued through video games) but the script does allow a potential return to battle stations. Reeves just shakes his head and runs his long fingers through his sticky-up hair. "I felt it was more about the idea of Neo than the literal personality, or person. There might be another day, when the Architect says 'How long do you think the peace will last?' and The Oracle says, 'As long as it can.' And with that the cycle of life, another hero will have to come along and all these things will have to repeat to a certain extent."

Oh and about the Star Wars movies.. that was always conceived as being six movies.. and that we DO have conclusive proof of.. in the fact that the 1st now-legendary introduction at the beginning of Star Wars with the scrolling text specifically states EPISODE IV. George Lucas always wanted to make 6 movies, but the technology didn't exist at the time to create what he had envisioned regarding Episodes I-III, so he made the second half first.

Hmm... since every program that reached its purpose must face deletion or hide in the matrix, we can easely assume that Neo/the One will refuse deletion especially if now programs are free to get out of the matrix.

Yes i believe Neo's physical body is dead but his soul and the Anomly Code remains inside the Matrix.

To your second question, i have said before in other treads about Sati being teh Seventh One, And i am still standing by what i said. Her ablility or connection to both the Machines and the humans will be a impornt part i believe in the next version of the Matrix.

Also her ability to change the Sky. Some people believe that this his her purpose but i believe that it is the begining of her new powers.

Neo1,

I think that most of us will agree with what I'll say : the anomaly appears only when humans are held prisoner in the matrix against their will. So Sati could not be the next One since the equation is equilibrated.

Anyway, I think that the One must be a human.

I think that even AI are humans somehow, but they're humans with a reprogrammed mind.