»First Post: Greetings & My own M3 Idea«

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First of all yes you may use my reply as a review. Secondly, I would not change a single thing you wrote.

Good afternoon Ron, how are you today?

Thank you Ron.

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I would've love to have seen on screen just what I saw in my head when I read your extremely detailed finale.

You are not the only one. I too would like to see on screen what I wrote. Perhaps there is an animator who could animate it?

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If you're getting slammed by your ending it's going to be for one of three reasons: 1, They have not thoroughly read your complete ending for it is lengthy but is worth the read.

This is evident already within the thread.

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2, They are people who shouldn't be in this particular part of the forum because as hollow as the Wacho Bros. ended Revolutions these people are content with it.

I've spoken to you in PM about this.

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and 3, They have written their own ending and are to proud to give credit where credit is due. They must protect their ego's and feel that is dimishes themselves in admitting the plausibility that your ending out does theirs.

Pride is something many people (not all) seem to find hard to deal with. As mentioned before (perhaps in another thread, I can't remember: I always give credit where credit is due even if I don't particularly like what I have read/seen/been presented with.

I spoke about this in the PM but for those reading, I did not write this story to outdo anyone. I wrote it before even searching for a Matrix site to reside in. Once it was in a state of completion, I then searched for a Matrix site to post it in. I was almost going to leave this forum due to the warm welcoming I received. Luckily that changed because there are a few people on this forum who are fantastic individuals (whether they like or dislike Revolutions is beside the point, there are still some fantastic people here).

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I have written two alternate endings in the "What I would like to see in Matrix 4 (and how I would rewrite Matrix 3)" forum. The first one was titled "and Ending that does not destroy Revolutions" in which I was pretty much ripped to shreads over it with people calling it "Stupid" and "Too Disney" Then I wrote another called "A not so Disney Ending" In which the response was kinder but basically it was said to be just as "stupid" as my first Alternate.

"Stupid" & "Too Disney" - Very constructive critism there... not.

As for too disney, I still believe what we were presented with was nothing short of disney. ...but that's my opinion.

It is easier to tear down than to help build up. The one who doesn't help build is usually lazy in body and mind and doesn't need to do much to show this.

As for the latter: It is nice to know that a kinder approach was taken but again, how is "stupid" constructive?

I have not read these two threads and have found them. I will spend some time to have a read of them.

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The way I feel about those responses is "oh well" Because I thought them to be half way decent not masterpieces. Hell if I could write a masterpiece such your ending I'd persue a crareer in screenplay writing or novel writing. BTW is what I think you should seriously consider doing I can even offer you advise on how to get your writings out to the pros.

Even half way decent not masterpieces would probably be better in my eyes that what my eyes saw. I remember seeing a comment somewhere which isn't much of a review really but still rings true to me at least. I think the comment when something like, "No matter what you have thought M3 was going to be like, no matter how silly it may have been, it has to be better than what it was." - Or something to that effect.

As my friend Warwick says, which is true, out of all the places we frequently visit for coffee, he (and I) were astonished at the amount of people who were underwhelmed by the movie. He says in his review that he was overwhelmed by the amount of people that were underwhelmed by it. He's not kidding. At least in our area. Naturally this does not mean the entire planet for those who disagree and are thinking of attacking me for writing the last comment.

A career in it... I suppose I could but who knows where to start? I would be very interested in talking to you about this Ron.

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Yeah my endings didn't hold the intriging elements found within your story but I can claim something that the Wacho Bros. can't : I adequately ansered all the questions that they had left open and did it in two completely different ways and then you did it in a third different way proving this one fact: It could've been done by the Wacho. Bros. But it wasn't. So my question then is WHY? I'll tell you why becuase a 4th Matrix. They're not done milking this cash cow yet.

Yep, the Mooolah from the Cow is still within this utter. I concur wholeheartedly but unfortuntately, I'm not too excited about seeing anything more Matrix-y from the W.Bros now. What a shame. Unless it's a re-write like what happened to Highlander II. Disappointment, then Highlander III came out to replace it.

As for the endings you wrote - I will review them myself sometime. I believe there were more than three possible ways to end it - the possibilities were endless and out of all the great possible endings, they seemed to find a way to write the worst thing I have ever seen. - Just my opinion for those others reading, don't bash me for it.

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I'm in the entertainment business....I know how it works....there is still lots of money to be made off of the Matrix franchise machine.

Yep, absolutely. Until such time as they have enough money I guess (if they haven't already got enough?)

They'll milk it, it'll be up to us to say yes or no now. It's no longer a matter of 'It is going to be brilliant because it's Matrix' (for me at least) The bros killed that belief in me with Rev.

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A 4th Matrix? I don't believe it to be a matter of belief....it is inevitable.

Let's hope it's a re-write like Highlander was.

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Best of luck to you and continue to harness and master your craft of crreative writing and make sure you express to all of those devoted friends of yours for their time, energy, and committment to your task for they are to be commended as well because things that are truly fantastic usually occur when people pull together as a team and work colllectively.

Thank you Ron, and I will pass on the message to the reviewers, editors and linguist who helped out on this story.

That is true Ron, I couldn't have done it as good without the help from the collective. You will become one with the Borg.

Seriously, I'll pass on the comments. I do believe that we had a good team for this story.

Cheers,
-Md

You are quite welcome and, "the honor still remains completely all mine."


First of all to anyone who is following this thread I would highly encourage you to read in its entirety the finale that marcdaniel and his collugues have so brilliantly put together. If you do not read it entirely then your praises or critiques are worthless and carry no weight but are mere words across the screen.

Secondly, If you're one of those people who hold the opinion that the Trilogy was a complete work of art and should be left as it is then all I have to say is that I do truly respect your opinion but this part of the forum is not for those who feel as you do...it is for those of us who feel the the Wacko. Bros. sold out to commercialism and gave in to a very simplistic script for Revolutions.

The special Fx in this film were good but not up to the hype that was created not by Hollywood alone but by the Wacko. Bros. themselves. I read in interview after interview how Reloaded was a "mere tease" according to the official Matrix site, to what we were going to experience FX wise in Revolutions. I'm sorry but Reloaded was much more pheonominal in the FX catagory than Revolutions. I supposed they expected we as an audience to be in sheer awe at the Zionists in there walking and finghting machines. Hey Wacko Bros! NEWSFLASH! its been done before and done better. You guys need to watch the movie Aliens again to see how to make those suckers looks less CGI and more believable.

Marcdaniel I appreciate it when I get to converse with someone who uses both sides of the brains when making an observation. It's refreshing that there are people who are not dazzled by Bull shite and look at what the intentions were to be in the first place. You my friend if you persue your dreams will undoubtedly make a great writer and when you do all I ask is that when you do give me a personalized copy of one of you first printings. So please take to heart what I told you in the PM. Maybe we could get together on a collaboration on a story that will blow every one's mind. I'm game if you are.

Keep the realizing the dream and soon the dream will realize you.


Ron Huffman

Thanks Ron.

Yes please read it in it's entirety people, the teaser is just that, a teaser formed in a hollywood style and by no means presents the story. Please read the story before reading the crux of it or the bios listed in the elaboratrix section of the site. And please, whether you like or hate it, please let me know your constructive thoughts.

I agree Ron, the FX in M3 are not as good as those in M2. The whole deity fight scene in the rain and spinning in the air was almost laughable and certainly did nothing for me personally.

Thanks again Ron and I too appreciate it. Of course, when I get my first book published I will get you a personalized copy of it. I have read your PM, thank you for your kind words and I will take the comments to heart. I am always willing to collaborate on a story. I have had something on the back burner which I jotted down years ago and wrote a few chapters on. I'll have review it and rewrite it (that is, after I find what disc it has been saved too). When I do find it (have a few boxes to unpack still (moved houses not long ago)). When that happens I'll run it by you.

Is the dreamer dreaming the dream or is the dream dreaming the dreamer?
Maybe the dreamer is dreaming the dream dreaming the dreamer?

Thanks Ron.

Has anybody else read this story in it's entirety yet?

If so, thoughts?