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Symbols in the Matrix & References to existing philosophies

 

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Ok, I've noticed alot of Forum Junkies going nuts with the Philosophical & Religious Symbolism posts, but if any one has anything they want to say concerning religous symbolism, say it here.
I'm gonna do some research into Greek, Indian, Aztec etc. mythology so while I do that, go nuts!

For one, is Trinity based on any gods? Is she based on any mythological stories?

Well..... here I am.
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Trinity, I'm pretty sure, represents the holy spirit in the trio of Morpheus, Neo, and Trinity. Morpheus representing the Father, Neo representing the Son, and Trinity, the holy spirit or Espirtusancto, which also means "Divine breath" (the word "Spirit" is derived from he latin "Spira" for breath).

In the end of Matrix 1, she breaths the life back into Neo with her kiss.

The symbols in M1 differ from the symbols in the other two movies in that they are much looser. For instance, Morpheus is probably the father in the trinity symbol, but that doesn't make him God. In fact, he is very representative of John the Baptist. He is the finder of the One, as John heralds tghe coming of the Messiah. Also, the water imagery of Neo's awakening is symbolic of his baptism. Also, Morpheus's name refers to the God of Dreams (while we're talking about mythology) and the Matrix is described as "a dream" that you can't wake up from. The mythical figure Morpheus is the keeper of two gates, one to the real world and one to the dream world. This is symbolized by the red and blue pills.

There's lots and lots to say about Morpheus, but poor Trinity doesn't get too much discussion. One thing I've been thinking about for Trinity is whether she is also symbolic of Love (as in specific love). I am thinking that the Wachowskis were trying to equate "the holy spirit" with love. In other words, the manifestation of God on Earth is exhibited by love. Just a thought. By the way, there's a whole forum dedicated this subject on this site.

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Me ! me ! me! I have a good one Banana

In the Yi King (the oldest Chinese book, containing a coding system used by oracles to predict the futur), three lines mean the following :

Name : K'ien , the creator
Attribute : strenght
Image : the sky
Place in family : the Father

So, the three lines would symbolyze the creator.

Neo:"there is no spoon"
Merovingian:"there is no lipstick!"
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I think it makes sense to see trinity as the holy spirit in a way since she is meant to represent Neo's connection to mankind. The holy spirit is meant to be God working within humans rather than the transcendant force which is God the father or the saviour which is Jesus Christ.

"I am more than man, more than life! I am a GOD!"
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Here’s a theory

I’m not sure how far I can take this theory and apply it to the Martrix movies but here goes.

According to Jungian psychology, no human can undertake a direct experience of an encounter between them self and God. This is a psychic impossibility. There would be no epiphany. For a human to undergo just such a numinous experience would instead, result in the physical death of the person. We can, none of us, ever meet God face to face.

Neo’s encounter with the supreme machine, ends in his destruction. Neo has been endowed with god-like abilities and so is able to move closer than any other to the actual experience of meeting with God. The eventual meeting however, brings about his own destruction. The psychological final union that Neo undertakes within himself could, using the events in the Matrix, be interpreted as culminating in his eventual demise starting with his choice to save Trinity, to his final battle and with Smith with their becoming one.

So how can humans come close to God without actually dying?

ARCHETYPES. Archetypes are the interface with which we can come close to experiencing the numinosity of the experience that occurs with communication with God. In the matrix The Architect, the Oracle, the Merovingian even Morpheus ( in M1 and through-out most of M2) are as close to God as humans can get without self destructing. They are archetypes. Yet, even meeting them, is an experience filled with danger and not to be undertaken lightly as archetypes have their own special powers to entice an unwary soul down a destructive path if one is not careful, if one does not know thyself ! When we encounter an archetypal figure, a transformation occurs. We become more present, more focused, more in touch with our surroundings. That is because the experience with the archetype constellates and amplifies our abilities. To some this has dangerous consequences as they are unaware that the experience about to be undertaken may have dangerous outcomes. Finally, if the person’s psyche has not been tampered with and damaged in their growing years of childhood and youth, the experience of meeting an archetype ( which happens all the time and is part of human growth) is a positive one resulting in the gift of a powerful life experience. Whatever the experience, the feelings it arouses cannot last forever and eventually are integrated into the consciousness of the person who comes to understand the nature of their constellated feeling. Or, in self defence, they have to abandon the continued exposure to the archetype as it causes them much anguish and pain in the choices they make or the feelings of rejection they are met with when the object of their amplified affection cannot reciprocate because the reverse affect has not happened to them.

One of the most basic ways this happens to humans is when we fall in love and the person falls back in love with us. To love someone is touch the greatness that is God. However, that doesn’t make it any less dangerous an act with terrible consequences if things don’t turn out.

Regarding Trinity’s death.

When looking at the visual narrative in M3 we see that, when they reach the surface of earth, Trinity’s panics. Her panic seems to surface right after they have both experienced the truth of seeing earth’s beautiful blue sky. As they fall back to earth Neo says (paraphrasing) to pump the engines – that they will start. Trinity does so but her actions show us she is in a panic. The engines don’t start. Neo tells her to try again but slowly this time ( if only we could do things more slowly) !. It appears she tries to but really, her actions are still just as panicked (remember, she tells Neo earlier that she was so scared it took her 10 minutes to do up her lace - indicating the worst of her fears are now upon her) and instead she only adds a jerkiness to her movements that appear to be an imitation of slowness, which is really indicative of her panicked state. Why she would panic here, and not in other places through-out the Matrix narrative is not explained. However, her panic results in her mortal end. The moral ? When you lose it, you may find one day, that it costs you (your life). Psychologically however, what happens is that this latest endeavour is too much for her too handle. It is too real. She is too close to the encounter with God. Bane as Smith in the real world and, the truth of there being a blue sky, a blinded lover ( Neo) who is being enraptured/transported by the energy of the vast number of machines which are overwhelming his senses. Trinity is overwhelmed too ( maybe because Neo, who is keeping the squiddie bombs at bay can’t protect her). She is overwhelmed, panicked, awed, and out of her depth. She has bit off more than she can chew. Unconsciously, she realizes this. It surfaces physically in the sensation of panic which she is not able to get under control.

From a psychological viewpoint, Trinity can go no further. She cannot continue on the journey with Neo because to come so close to the source – to God is impossible. Her unconscious understands this. It is impossible for her to meet with God and survive. And for some reason Neo is not an appropriate archetype to channel that encounter between herself and God. Hence, her panic at not being able to get the engines started, when she is with the person she should most feel in tune with. Interestingly enough Morpheus is missing from this triangle. Is it Morpheus ( father figure for Trintiy) and not Neo ( who has her love) who inspires her to greatness?


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Someone wrote this before, but I've got to use it in this case:

Trinity's death was necessary to complete the meaning of her name. She gets impaled by four spikes thus making her a "Holy Trinity"

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