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Neodämmerung" text (from the Upanishads)

Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 1.3.28

asato ma sad gamaya
tamaso ma jyotir gamaya
mrtyor mamrtam gamaya

From delusion lead me to truth
From darkness lead me to light
From death lead me to immortality.

Isa Upanishad 11

vidyam cavidyam ca yas
tad vedobhayam saha
avidyaya mrtyum tirtva
vidyayamrtam asnute

He who knows both knowledge and action, with action overcomes death and with knowledge reaches immortality.

Mundaka Upanishad 2.2.5

yasmin dyauh prthivi cantariksam otam manah saha pranais ca sarvaih tam evaikam janatha atmanam anya vacah vimuncatha amrtasya esah setuh

In him are woven the sky and the earth and all the regions of the air, and in him rest the mind and all the powers of life. Know him as the ONE and leave aside all other words. He is the bridge of immortality.

Katha Upanishad 6.7

indriyebhyah param mano
manasah sattvam uttamam
sattvad adhi mahan atma
mahato vyaktam uttamam

Beyond the senses is the mind, and beyond the mind is reason, its essence. Beyond reason is the Spirit in man, and beyond this is the Spirit of the Universe, the evolver of all.

Katha Upanishad 6.10

yada pancavatisthante
jnanani manasa saha
buddhis ca na vicestate
tam ahuh paramam gatim

When the five senses and the mind are still, and reason itself rests in silence, then begins the Path supreme.

Ya ya ya ya yada yadaya
Ya ya ya ya yada yada yada yada
Yada yada yada yada yada

Mundaka Upanisad 2.2.8

bhidyate hrdayagranthis
chidyante sarvasamsayah
ksiyante casya karmani
tasmin drste paravare

And when he is seen in his immanence and transcendence, then the ties that have bound the heart are unloosened, the doubts of the mind vanish, and the law of Karma works no more.

I hope you find the Superbrawl Track as interesting as I did...

Thanks go to Deus-Ex-Machina, fellow Matrix Nut, for aquiring them...
Enjoy

where did you hack those from?

i thought the song title was "Neodämmerung"...

the word "dämmerung", i think, is German... means "dawn" or "twilight".

The "Dawn/Twilight of Neo" ?

mud wrote:

where did you hack those from?

A Don Davis site...I shall say no more..!

xtreme_bi0hazard wrote:

i thought the song title was "Neodämmerung"... the word "dämmerung", i think, is German... means "dawn" or "twilight". The "Dawn/Twilight of Neo" ?

Well yes you are correct, but the lyrics I can assure you are correct...

=P i never said the lyrics were not correct

xtreme_bi0hazard wrote:

=P i never said the lyrics were not correct

Sorry...!

Another Smith wrote:

mud wrote: where did you hack those from? A Don Davis site...I shall say no more..!

This information is also on the inside cover of the Revolutions Soundtrack. What exactly are Upanisads? It looks like something related to Hinduism.

Brown said:

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This information is also on the inside cover of the Revolutions Soundtrack.

At the time I had no idea...I have a copy of the soundtrack(until my bank balance looks slightly healthier!)

Upanishads and the Vedas
The earliest Indian Texts are the Vedic hymns, orally composed and transmitted in four collections, from around the beginning of the 1st millennium BC and long regarded as too sacred to be written down.
These collections, containing poems of praise and invocation to numerous deities, but usually alluding to myths about them, are the earliest part of the Vedas.

The Aranyakas and the UPANISHADS are speculative texts which nonetheless make use of myth to communicate their ideas.
The predominantly male Vedic deities, the Devas, display very human characteristics. There are often said to be 33 of them, later usually divided equally between the three regions of heaven, atmosphere and earth. Their chief attribute is their power, and hence their ability to help mankind

Another Smith, Those lyrics are awsome. Where can I find this song? If I can't buy it at a local music store, I'll settle for the next best thing..<cough..cough> napster

so dammerung means dawn

and neo means new

new dawn...what sati created at the and of revolutions

wwhhhaaaayyy

My mate wrote :

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Another Smith, Those lyrics are awsome. Where can I find this song? If I can't buy it at a local music store, I'll settle for the next best thing..<cough..cough> napster

Matrix Revolutions Soundtrack...Smith & Neo Super Brawl Track

Ok, I got desperate and found the instrumental neodamderung... however you spell it. I thought the vocal is suppose to be in tamil, sanscrit or some other indian language?

NAVRAS... You're not a *bloody* idiot...! I know you like that(!)

WHEY! New Dawn? Bloody Genius. Ihr Sonne. Im pretty sure your right because of the accent used on Neodammerung & I know a bit of German. I thought the Neo at the start of the songs title could just have been a coincedence, but all the songs titles from the Matrix Reloaded Disk 2 & Matrix Revolutions Album are specifically named for when they are used as they where made to fit the scenes perefectly. Thanks for the translation, bloody good work. For those who are unsure, Navras is the version made for the Revolutions credits, with the wailing woman & Neodammerung was made for Super Brawl & has the great Pen-Ultimate effect.

roger that. awesome track it is, listening to it at this very moment aswell.

I'm pretty sure it's a play on words. Wagner has a composition known as "Gotterdammerung" It's a very famous piece from one of his operas. It is the theme played when the "Hall of the Gods" is burning (incorrectly sited as Valhalla).

Gotterdammerung is (basically) a translation of the word "Ragnarok" which historians and other so called intellectuals mistakenly translate as "twilight of the gods", but in fact correctly translates to "Doom of the Gods". The mistake is due in part to spelling mistakes made on the part of scholars back in various times.

Here's the deal about "Neodammerung"
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'Tehra' and 'the anomaly' were very close on there questions for the song "Neodammerung", but they were a bit off, as well...

Neodammerung is German, as said by many, because if it wasnt, then "Neo damned a rung?" would have been asked by many. It is German for "Twilight of Neo" or "Dawn of Neo", as said by 'the anomaly'. Also, 'tehra' pointed out that Neodammerung had a slight relation to Wagner's "Gotterdammerung". This is also true, and it was translated incorrectly and it means "Doom of the Gods". My cousin was on camera crew for The Matrix Trilogy, and he actually met the Wachowski brothers and the composer for the Trilogy, Don Davis. My cousin, WHO WILL NOT BE NAMED AS OF NOW told me a bit about whats behind the movie...so I will refer to him as the Oracle, and I as Serif, and if you don't like it... He didn't tell me everything, but he did give us something to ponder....does "Neodammerung" stand for "New Dawn", or possibly "Doom of Neo". If you think about it, they both fit in the spot perfectly....If anyone figures it out, please email me....

m4jor_p41n wrote:

Ok, I got desperate and found the instrumental neodamderung... however you spell it. I thought the vocal is suppose to be in tamil, sanscrit or some other indian language? dondavis.filmmusic.com... Please help the idiot. Am I thinking of a different song?

No, M4jor, you have the right song. In fact, before I went out to buy the SoundTrack, that is the song that I downloaded. If you are still wondering, the song is sung (more like chanted) in Sanscrit. (Thank the "Oracle" for that one) Got anymore questions? Email me, and maybe I could help you....

Serif the wise

If you look at the first page of this thread the lyrics are there, with a translation!

Does anyone know what Neodämmerung means? Not a lyrics translation but the word.

Edit: oops silly me, didn't notice somone already put it on the board. (edited this before somone pointed this out). I think I'll go with the New Dawn translation because I know somone who uses it as his username on a different site and chose it well before Revolutions came out in any form.

[quote="Serif the Wise"][b]Here's the deal about "Neodammerung"[/b]
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'Tehra' and 'the anomaly' were very close on there questions for the song "Neodammerung", but they were a bit off, as well...

Neodammerung is German, as said by many, because if it wasnt, then "Neo damned a rung?" would have been asked by many. It is German for "Twilight of Neo" or "Dawn of Neo", as said by 'the anomaly'. Also, 'tehra' pointed out that Neodammerung had a slight relation to Wagner's "Gotterdammerung". This is also true, and it [i]was[/i] translated [i]incorrectly[/i] and it means "Doom of the Gods". My cousin was on camera crew for The Matrix Trilogy, and he actually met the Wachowski brothers and the composer for the Trilogy, Don Davis. My cousin, [b]WHO WILL NOT BE NAMED AS OF NOW[/b] told me a bit about whats behind the movie...so I will refer to him as the Oracle, and I as Serif, and if you don't like it... He didn't tell me everything, but he did give us something to ponder....does "Neodammerung" stand for "New Dawn", or possibly "Doom of Neo". If you think about it, they both fit in the spot perfectly....If anyone figures it out, please email me....[/quote]

Hi, i have been on this translation website and found out, it might not be right but Dawn of neo means "Morgendammerung von Neo" doom of neo on the other hand means something else not involving the word dammurung! i know that this website presumes that neo is a name hence that fact of neo is "von neo" because dawn of neo can mean Dammerung but as one word because of religious refrences!

If what you say is true, then Neodammerung is not a title with Neo's name, but translated to the word new...So "New Dawn" should be the title, as long as no one has made a translation error...

Hello. I am new to this board (but not the Matrix)

I came across matrix-explained.com while I was looking for some information on a hindu meditation chant I went to the homepage then browsed around a bit, reading peoples theories and stuff then I came across this topic of "Neodammerung"


Well, I know a fair amount of German and Dammerung does in fact mean twilight AND dawn...

"Neo" is a Greek word meaning "New" (Duh. Stating the obvious.) And it combined with words of other languages to make the word new and/or recent (Yes, I enjoy stating the obvious...)

So the title Neodammerung would in fact mean "New Twilight" or "New Dawn"

Either of those two work for a title. As the final scene is the dawn; the first glimpse of the sun as it beginst to rise and the twilight; the light from the sky during the early morning.

But there is one thing that doesn't quite fit in with the entire thing... Why would they call the song "New Dawn" or "New Twilight" if it was being played durring the scene, the battle of which the outcome determines whether or not there is to be a new dawn or twilight.

So it would make more sense if the title was "New Twilight"... and it wouldn't be talking about the evening or morning light...

Lost? Where am I going with this?

Let me explain.

The word twlight has meanings that aren't related to the morning or evening.

Twilight is also condition or period of DECLINE following glory, growth, or success.

Agent Smith was bathing in his glory and success, he was convinced he had won. He was so sure that once he took over Neo and changed him that he would have won, it would be over, he would have succeeded... He took over Neo... but rather than actually being victorious he starts exploding... and continues to explode until there is none of him left and finally loses the battle after almost completely succeeding.

Does this make sense? I, personally, think that this works perfectly. Does it sound too obscure?


-Demile

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Does it sound too obscure?

Now that I think of it twilight is also a state of obscurity or ambiguity. Which also makes some sense for the usage of the word twilight. But I am sticking with my "decline after success" conclusion.



-Demile