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I think this was never mentioned..

Neo talk on the phone at the end of the movie...

" I know you're out there."
" I can feel you now."
" I know that you're afraid."
" You're afraid of us."
" You're afraid of change."
" I don't know the future."
" I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end."
" I came here to tell you how it's going to begin."
" I'm going to hang up this phone."
" And then I'm going to show this people what you don't want them to see."
" I am going to show them a world....without you."
" A world without rules and controls,without borders or boundries."
" A world where anything is possible."
" Where we go from there.....is a choice i leave to you."

Ok who is Neo talking to? The other side never answers?

Did you realize Neo's speech is quite idiotic if he is the only one talking there?(There might be someone who answers by Neo's own voice? Try to divide speech into Neo and Mr.Unknown..I didn't do it here because there are really lots of variations.But it does work just try it..And turn it into two guys talking.)

He is just gonna help the machines by showing people a different matrix but still the matrix!?!

Here if he means he is going to show the real world by shutting down matrix..It still makes no sense because its not a world without machines..Besides we know our minds can't accept the reality if our minds are weak or we believe in the matrix so much..That would be killing billions to shut it down..Then who will win?Can Zion get anyone that survived the disaster? How will they find who survived? Thats impossible...They had problems to find Neo himself in time even after using a tracking system(the red pill)

The One thinks he has free-will but no he doesn't..His own speech betrays him he says he will show a world without borders or boundries,rules or controls? Didn't Agent Smith tell Morpheus that a world like that makes all of humans wake up and die again because they can't accept the reality..

Things made me think that this movie sucks really..

Did you see in Reloaded that Neo made a single change on matrix? The codes are still running...Agents still there..

And oh Neo becomes one with the source codes but hey he is suprised to see backdoors......Neo can't know where oracle is at any time? Neo can't shape the world he was god of matrix at the end of first movie..He turned into something much weaker in reloaded..To make the fights with system more challenging maybe?

The fight with swords,Halbers rapiers and shields...was a disaster! Noting was sharp i guess hehe but the thrust based weapons Neo was using? lol they don't have to be sharp but he was using them like a Mace..

Oh and yes if those weren't sharp anyway how did Morpheus cut a Jeep into two with the sword?His sword was an exception eh?

There are damn alot of flaws in the movie and i find it interesting to see people talk about it like a sceintific fact hmm

Anyway i forgot to use my (..) ..The last part: sarcasm

Plus: He is not too bright.
Plus: He cannot become invisible (for the system)

And yes i accept that if M1 end is coming after revolutions those i wrote upon are half worthless..

But still!... We can't say the war is won and Humans destroyed machines in real world(*sigh* assuming its real..) if so who the hell Neo is talking to on the phone? And so if the war wasn't won how will he wake all the humans(Goes up to billions will die question again) and still while the war isn't yet won there are still machines up there..This ruins I will show them a world without you.Because they still exist up there...

One more thing System Failure Message is quite disturbing at the end of M1..Couldn't really understand what that really means.He shut down or the system faiLed because codes are controled by Neo from now on?


And adding this AI creating theory for much better Matrix..Think about Neo taking over Matrix from machines and turn it into a place where noone will be able to wake up? Because he has the ability to think like a human



P.S. what i mean with becoming one with force was used wrong..He controls the codes is what i was trying to say..

Oh my god i said becoming one with the force

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ExecNight wrote:

And yes i accept that if M1 end is coming after revolutions those i wrote upon are half worthless..

Since Neo's phone talk was shown on the Architect's screens it has really already happened. Otherwise this would be the only monitor scene from the future.

knnknn wrote:

ExecNight wrote: And yes i accept that if M1 end is coming after revolutions those i wrote upon are half worthless.. Since Neo's phone talk was shown on the Architect's screens it has really already happened. Otherwise tis would be the only monitor scene from the future.

Also quite interesting is the opening of M2 which turns out to be a premonition of Trinity fighting and falling from the skyscraper. Neo has the premonition later during the love-making scene, albeit very abbreviated.

How can this "premonition" be completely accurate in every detail unless it has happened before?

Prophecies cannot come true just because they are prophecies. They must come true in religions as part of the mythological cycle, but in reality - historically, scientifically speaking - a prophecy only has the possibility of coming true by depending on the accuracy and ablilities of whoever is doing the guesswork.

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How can this "premonition" be completely accurate in every detail unless it has happened before?

The dream "Trinity Falls" is different. Neo is still under the control of the system then.
BUT: When he makes the phone call talking about freeing everybody from the control of the system, then this should not be able to be calculated or have happend before.

And yes Neo's dream..He dreams something thats going to happen and he won't be there in the beginning of the events too..So he see something that s going to happen from a third person s eye..And those dreams are seen in Zion not in matrix too.

He see every single point that is going to happen thats a little confusing..And makes me ask..Choice? Free Will? If they exist why can someone make a prophecy or see the future as exactly how its going to happen?

Trinity had to fall from that window? Can it be avoided? Did she have a choice really? Neo exactly saw how many bullets gonna be fired..how will the window get broken..How far the agent will be away from Trinity..Which bullet gonna hit Trinity..All just coinsidence? or is it the fact that there was no choice?

They all had infinite number of choices but all chosen the ones that Neo saw in his dream..According to this after all how can we say Neo had made a choice by choosing the door he will enter.....