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I have seen Matrix Revolutions and I want to comment on it [no theory discussion here!]

 

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1st was excellent
2nd was tolerated
3rd failed

end of story

In this hall of mirrors, built by liars, we are but a pale reflection of ourselves...
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Man, you suck... If mister doesn't shut up then I tell mister what I think of him
Pointless arguing with you
Dumb asshole 3Tooth

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if u say so 3Tooth ...but thats the truth

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Zaa Nayazu wrote:

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Man, you suck...
Pointless arguing with you
Dumb asshole


Now here's a man that speaks the TRUTH..

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if u say so ...but thats the truth


He He He finally got it then Mr. Mirra? Thumbup

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well yeah...i take that "man u suck" argument speaks for itself...lame ignorant cocksuckers Thumbdown

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well yeah...i take that "man u suck" argument speaks for itself...lame ignorant cocksuckers


YOU REALLY ARE AN IGNORANT, IMMATURE FUCKING BASTARD....So sorry KNN but it had to be said.... Nono

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yeah ok...if im immature because i dont buy every holywood crap that comes our way ill stay that way till i turn 80...after that ill probably be too fucked up to give a shit....gruopie fanclub losers without opinions and without free thoughts...u all have a common name, ure called IDIOT CONSUMERS...be that way

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yeah ok...if im immature because i dont buy every holywood crap that comes our way ill stay that way till i turn 80...after that ill probably be too fucked up to give a shit....gruopie fanclub losers without opinions and without free thoughts...u all have a common name, ure called IDIOT CONSUMERS...be that way

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What the hell are you here for exactly?
This is a site for fans of the Matrix....you know; M--A--T--R--I--X...

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yup ure out of arguments and are using smilies to escape the discussion in which u lost...good bye

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yup ure out of arguments and are using smilies to escape the discussion in which u lost...good bye

I'm just sick of wasting valuable words on you.... and by the way I'M STILL HERE....hello ? Mr. Mirra ? Nono Cool

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yeah ok...if im immature because i dont buy every holywood crap that comes our way ill stay that way till i turn 80...after that ill probably be too fucked up to give a shit....gruopie fanclub losers without opinions and without free thoughts...u all have a common name, ure called IDIOT CONSUMERS...be that way
WHATEVER.... Wallbash Bannerjuststupid
What the hell are you here for exactly?
This is a site for fans of the Matrix....you know; M--A--T--R--I--X...


oh i see that u edited your post...this is site for all people who had seen matrix and like to comment it...it doesnt matter wheter they liked it or not

i explained this to you before and i dont understand why do u have to repeat yourself Rolling Eyes oh i know all that "out of arguments" thingy

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oh i see that u edited your post...this is site for all people who had seen matrix and like to comment it...it doesnt matter wheter they liked it or not

i explained this to you before and i dont understand why do u have to repeat yourself oh i know all that "out of arguments" thingy


You don't have to tell me what this site is about.... You may not have liked the m3, but you insult everyone that answers your posts....So what really is your point, because all I keep seeing is one point - You are an ignorant, ill mannered scum bag.... and you're just here for an argument. Like I've said before we're here to discuss, not argue...but you continually force everybodys hand....Don't you have anything GOOD to say about ANYTHING ? YOU ARE A SAD INDIVIDUAL...

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Is this supposed to be an argument?

It seems to go something like this....

You suck!
No, YOU suck!
No you so suck
Yeah but you suck with extra suckiness
You suck cause you like any movie promoted to you
Well YOU suck cause you are on a forum about a movie you hate



Can I be the first to say: you BOTH suck cause you can't do anything but talk bullsh*t to each other and never make any real points!

Mr. Mirra needs to explain why he doesn't like the movie. To say that you don't like it because it sucks just makes you seem illiterate.

Another Smith needs to either ignore this guy or tell him what you like about the movie. However, admittedly this is difficult when he won't even tell you what he DOESN'T like.

Oh well....

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Another Smith needs to either ignore this guy or tell him what you like about the movie. However, admittedly this is difficult when he won't even tell you what he DOESN'T like.


He's just bloody infuriating, but believe me he's getting no more of the attention from me that he so craves.. Cool

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Nono 3rd movie failed to answer anything that 2nd asked...when it did answer something its either lame or has 10000000000 meanings...

thats why it sucks and i explained that in many topics this is an overview of all that...

and fatpie...U SUCK! Thumbdown

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Another Smith needs to either ignore this guy or tell him what you like about the movie. However, admittedly this is difficult when he won't even tell you what he DOESN'T like.
He's just bloody infuriating, but believe me he's getting no more of the attention from me that he so craves..


OMFG! Gumpred i cant answer this because its just...A! here you go---> Nono Screwy Thumbdown

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guys this is just a movie, to make us entertain. we speak about revolutions so it's the final sequel of the matrix movies.

frankly the first one entertained me most. i just said "wow man they did it, great scenario, great scenes, eye candy, eye candy all great". then the wachowski brothers said "we thought this as a trilogy", we said ohh this is better, so we waited for the next movies for 4 years (right.. 2003 - 1999).

during that 4 years, everybody who liked matrix 1, think about the sequels, what they are going to be about, is it going to be better or worse.. such questions, so there is some great expectations.

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until i watch reloaded:
matrix 1: I LIKED VERY MUCH
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then reloaded came up, we watched, and as a matter of fact, I LIKED IT SO MUCH. why? because, it deepen the scenario, it asks so many questions, mysterie. it forced the audience "think" about the movie. who is architect, who is oracle, what is zion, is it real or fake, who is merovingian, what does he want, what does agent smith want, what does neo want, what's this all about?

but I said okay, so many questions but it's okay, because I thought most of these wouldl be answered in the final movie.

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until i watch revolutions:
matrix 1: I LIKED VERY MUCH
matrix reloaded: I LIKED VERY MUCH
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and two weeks ago i watched the revolutions. and now:

matrix 1: I LIKED VERY MUCH
matrix reloaded: IT'S GOOD FOR THE SAKE OF EYE CANDY AND HIGHWAY CHASE SCENE
matrix revolutions: FINE WITH ME, WAR SCENE AND 01 SCENES ARE COOL

but that's all. this isn't what I expected.

what i expected is much more than "good" or "fine". i thought i'd say "trilogy of all time", "fantastic, great, (put 100 of similar words here)".

still i like the trilogy, but i wish i liked it more. that's why i'm surfing the matrix forums, trying to "understand" the movies to feel the satisfaction.

i know you want to like it too. so please stop arguing.

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but there is nothing left to "understand" story is a shallow, hollow straightforward beat-em up scenario...all the things of importance were left to the viewer and now we have zillion meanings so they can make more movies/games/anime/comics and make more money...A FRAUD!

revolutions...failed Nono Thumbdown

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Firstly, get yourself some better grammar!

Secondly this is a movie which makes us think. You are saying that movies that make us think make them more money. What's bad about people making movies that make us think. I think you need to tell me why it is a bad movie - which you STILL haven't done!

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yes failed, and surely the producers create new ways of making money for the name of "explaining" the matrix culture, trilogy whatsoever.

but what they did until this point, and the feelings they let us have until now, are enough to give another chance.

that's what i think.

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english is not my native language, so there may be some mistakes. on the other hand, it's better than having nothing to put as an argument other than "get yourself some better grammer". at least i'm saying something, whether the grammer is correct or not.

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I dont stop and check my grammar because its not important and btw. im croatian so my grammar is more than excellent if u consider that.
I have nothing against movies that make u think, but not in a way that "helps" filmmakers evade questions that they themselves asked! Gumpred who can answer those? ME? omfg just think about it
I cant say why and how does neo destroy sentinels in the real world, i cant say why did sentinel free neo in M1, i cant say is there MvM, i cant say why does zion have such crappy defenses, i cant say who or what was Seraph...oh the list is so big I CAN ONLY GUESS! and i want a story that i payed to see...

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I like "standalone". He can write. He makes sense. He gives reasons for his opinions. I think I agree that I want to like revolutions more after seeing the first two movies and loving them so much. But I don't think understanding it better is what will acheive that. Removing the corny lines might tho....

I think all the problems that need to be resolved in the plot ARE resolved. The stuff people argue about is underlying meanings and it is important that we CAN debate these things. What I don't like is bits where the kid whines "But I didn't finsh the training program" and is answered by a commander (a commander for goodness sake!) "neither did i". The kid should have been a younger actor too - if he's 16 then I'm 212.

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Sorry Mirra - we were writing posts at the same time so I've only just read your latest one.

Sorry for criticising your grammar. I think you need to look at a different thread for your answers and stop just writing random abuse.

Try this one:

matrix-explained.com...


or this one:
matrix-explained.com...


the second of these is mostly my explanations, but the first is a guy caled Lucid's ideas - and they made a lot of sense to me.

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look dude, i have seen all those explanations and they all have flaws...those are guessings, only 2 people on the planet can answer those questions right and they are either too lame to do that or dont know themselves...thats why they didnt do it in the movie

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