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»i figured it ALL out after seeing revolutions again«


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Tommy Vercetti

i figured it ALL out after seeing revolutions again  

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ok ware do I begin?....


ok, smith is fighting neo and neo is forced to the ground, earlyer we learn that the oracle wants imbalence and the archatect want balence. We will get to this later. ok so neo is fighting and suddenly smith trys to copy neo, but why then why does neo let himself be copyed? you ask? well because neo relized that being copyed into a smith would result in an imbalence in the equation: -, - =+ so this is a good thing right? so neo relized that 2 negitives equals positive so he had to sacrifice himself. so does he die? what wold happen if the original +1 was different than the +1 would neo die? live? be reborn into a new +1? well lets back up a bit: NEO IS JESUS, he has been refrenced as jesus the entire time, lets look at the facts: the first movie was about birth: christmas, second movie about life: jesuses life, and the third is about death, or is it? it really depends on what religeon you belive in. As far as i know there are 3: jesus is alive right now, hes not alive yet but he will return, and he has been alive but he remaines dead forever. the oracle said somthing like: he might come back or somthing of that matter. If my theiry is correct it means that the archatect is correct in thinking that the matrix depends on equations. smith makes the mistake of copying neo instede of just teaming up on him and killing him. If jesus comes back in our world then they will make anouther matrix!. it was left open because we dont know yet! thats why it wasnt explained!



the thory that smith doesnt have a purpose and that is why he is destroyed is good but smith dos have a pupose: to take over the matrix. And the machine world cant just delete him, which is why neo needs to be there, to sacrifise himself to unbalence the equation, or balence it, i really dont know. wich is the oracles gole: "to unbalence it" said be the oracle when asked, what do you do, by neo.




on an unrelated thought, i have to metion this:

a week before watching the matrix 3 i got a thought. The thought was that life is just an equation trying to balence itself out. I SWEAR i didnt even hear of this concept before in my life, i was thinking about science class ware we are learing about electricity and negitive electrons and positive protons and neutral neutrons, then i was thinking about my life and somthing in my brain was telling me that life was an equation trying balence itself out thus for every good thing hapining in your life there is an attempt to balence this by putting you through hell. anyway when i saw revolutions and when the oracle said somthing like: archatect thinking that life in the matrix was an equation, i jumped out of my seat because i had the EXACT same thought about my life about a week before the movie. this can mean 3 things: im alittle bit of a phycic, it was a quencidence, and finaly: great minds think alike.

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I wil buy the second option. Whitelaugh

Check that -1 + -1 = 1 please Nono

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ok, i ment, -,- = +, it just means a double negitive equals positive, but adding it makes it 0, so ya, your right. i was basicly making it up as i went so its not perfect, aw hell im confused, you figure it out if your so smart

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It's 1+-1=0

1 = the one
-1 = the oracle said smith is neos opposite, his negative. so, smith
0 = nothing, the end of both

so he sacrificed himself knowing that because 1+-1=0 what would destroy smith

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Thanks for explaining our friend Tommy a little 'bout math. Thumbup Bannerthanks

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FienD wrote:

It's 1+-1=0

1 = the one
-1 = the oracle said smith is neos opposite, his negative. so, smith
0 = nothing, the end of both

so he sacrificed himself knowing that because 1+-1=0 what would destroy smith



ya but that dosent work, because in the oracles job is to unbalence it and, if anything it shude be -2 because neo was copyed into anouther smith, witch makes it -2 and the matrix cant allow -2 things, so all smiths are erased

but no matter how you work out the numbers, you cant deny that the reason we dont know if neo will come back is because we dont know if jesus will come back, and if he does than anouther matrix movie has to be made

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-1 + -1 = -2
-1 + 1 = 0

-1 * -1 = +1
-1 / -1 = +1

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still unbalanced  

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"this" equation may be balanced, but there may be forthcoming unbalanced (need to be balanced) equations.

this equation is the 6th matrix's equation that produces anomaly which we call neo. to balance, we need some variable/code, agent smith.

and, at the end of revolutions, sati asks oracle if she can see neo again in the future, and oracle replies positive. this dialog prooves that there's going to be more equations (more matrix versions) and more neos (also agent smiths).

therefore, the assumptions says that neo is still alive or dead, are irrelevant since new neos (funny) should be coming.

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FienD wrote:

It's 1+-1=0

1 = the one
-1 = the oracle said smith is neos opposite, his negative. so, smith
0 = nothing, the end of both

so he sacrificed himself knowing that because 1+-1=0 what would destroy smith


yeah thats some complex equation...LOL! Its good to know that machines can add Laughing

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Hey, let's go back to the simple stuff
Neo sees smith saying "everything that has a beginning, has an end" ... the oracle said that, and he remembered it, so, he understood that absorved people could control smith. he lets smith absorve him, and destroys him, just like he did on the first movie.
If he died now, he probably died on matrix 1 also Smile
I also thought that destroying smith, he would have destroyed the matrix, take a look at:
matrix-explained.com...

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yeah i agree with the cancelin out thats why the oracle says everything that has a beggining has an end

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FienD wrote:

It's 1+-1=0

1 = the one
-1 = the oracle said smith is neos opposite, his negative. so, smith
0 = nothing, the end of both

so he sacrificed himself knowing that because 1+-1=0 what would destroy smith


Exactly what the whole end of Revolutions means. I completely agree with the mathmatical equation canceling each other out, resulting in both Neo and Smith's deaths.

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And I think someone asked why did Smith supposedly get 'deleted' in M1 and nothing happened to Neo in result?

I think it's because it was Neo's awakening to be the One, and in result, it was Smith's awakening to be an exile program, to 'disobey", and so, Smith's awakening to be the Anti One, or -1. And that's why the equation works out in M3.

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they say a negative times a negative = a posistive.. so when smith duplicated(multiplied himself) wudnt that make him a positive :-/

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then a say in was in one smith not all

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hhmmm.... well, I think Smith was like a virus (real one like a disease AND the computer kind) he just changed the coding to his own. So in a sense, he isn't changing himself at all. It's like a whole bunch of clones, same coding inside, just copies of it. So yeah, he's still -1.

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Indeed! Exact opposites.

One vs Many

Spiritual power vs materialistic power
(Smith needs other humans an programs to grow as strong as Neo)

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Yes, One vs. Many... very interesting indeed. How the Wachowskis figured all this out just blows my mind! Shocked Everything just fits together... the mathematical equation 1 + -1 = 0, the One vs. Many, AND the religious theory also... (you know, Neo = Jesus Christ and Smith = Anti-Christ) how can they think up all that?

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Simply because they are brilliant! Smile

Maybe helped and guided by some spiritual powers.

It's indeed a miracle. But I thank God for it.

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Venus wrote:

Yes, One vs. Many... very interesting indeed. How the Wachowskis figured all this out just blows my mind! Shocked Everything just fits together... the mathematical equation 1 + -1 = 0, the One vs. Many, AND the religious theory also... (you know, Neo = Jesus Christ and Smith = Anti-Christ) how can they think up all that
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uhh idk maybe they went to sunday school every week?..

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Background:

Watched the films then read a bit on the internet.

Two people play a game versus a computer

Zion represents one player

Smith represents the other, hacker style human player

The architect represents the computer

The computer is logical, the 'Zion' player acts like you or me

The hacker sees a way to beat both the human player and the computer but has not contemplated the possibility that the human and the computer may join forces to beat the third i.e. him/herself.

None of the films show real life.

Reminds me of a world domination board game....

Enjoyable bit of fun, end of story.

Logically there are few ways to run the 'world' effectively. it is emotions that cause the 'world' to be a better or worse place to be.
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i didnt actually realise till just now that that was why neo sacrificed himself. but what has 'everything that has a beggining has an end, Neo' got to do with anything? so if they cancel each other out, i know jack about maths, then it all ends, which means the equation has been balanced and therefore destroyed whihc leaves nothing fo rthe oracle to unbalance. am i right for once? and i take it Neo is dead. and trinity is too. So do they like go to heaven? and why is Morpheus played down so much in the last two movies? he seems non existant. he was like this really cool mentor and then he was nothing.

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