»How can the humans breathe?«

we are clearly shown that there is no vegetation of any sort, no trees nothing...and yet in the animatrix (matricutalet...blah whatever) humans breathe on the surface without hardware...when logos crashes they also breathe without hardware...a flaw!

what's the point of asking questions anyway? just think up a theory and that's it... are you expecting a part of the trilogy to answer your questions... no, no, it don't work that way...

Maybe they make a direct passage of air into the lungs through one of those pipes...

What pipes?

They seam to plug directly to the spinal cord, not to the lungs.
Anyway pipes?, like sewers?
And i don't get to the point of this question either

This is one of the things I didn't like about the sequels. When they leave the ships, and are outside Zion, they should need heavy coats and oxygen tanks.

excatcly Lysander...

And nayazu speak english please i dont understand your cryptic answers/questions...

BBCH wrote:

what's the point of asking questions anyway? just think up a theory and that's it...

Goddammit what is statement? This is a matrix fans site and a "matrix movie mistakes forum". Right now you are the one who is asking strange questions.

John Mirra wrote:

What pipes?

The pipes Neo pulls out of his throat in M1

what do the pipes have to do with how people breathe once they are released from the Matrix?

The pipes could be air flow pipes because there is no more oxygen on scroched earth

Excuse me sir... but in matrix 1 we see how Neo unpluggs itself of the Matrix... see what he takes out of his mouth, that is exactly the air supply (a tube in the trachea).

I think the question was: "How can the humans breathe outside of the matrix when there appears to be no vegetation at all?"

Once released from the matrix, they have no tubes/pipes in their lungs.

A possible theory could be that since the machines use the humans for power, and don't burn many fires, then there would be oxygen left over from when there were trees. However, eventually a million people would use up all the air. Also, if the trees burned down, then that would have used a significant amount of oxygen from the atmosphere.

Look, maybe air is also supplied by the machines as water is. Remember the "machine room" from Reloaded?
What ya think

the lack of oxygen would be a major movie flaw if there were a large bilogical population consuming the oxygen. since the animal popluation would have been destroyed without vegitation, the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere, although severly limited, would still be present. the matrix inhabitants would get proccesed air through the wetoworks systems - probebly using an evaporative process to prduce oxygen from water.

however, the movie flaw lies within the climate change. if the sky were scorched for an extended period (+/- 500 years) an ice age would be present.

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drumcode wrote:

the lack of oxygen would be a major movie flaw if there were a large bilogical population consuming the oxygen. since the animal popluation would have been destroyed without vegitation, the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere, although severly limited, would still be present. the matrix inhabitants would get proccesed air through the wetoworks systems - probebly using an evaporative process to prduce oxygen from water. however, the movie flaw lies within the climate change. if the sky were scorched for an extended period (+/- 500 years) an ice age would be present. - drumcode -

Wouldn't machines have developed some kind of weather controlling by now?... this is interesting because if so, i believe that whole thing about human batteries could not be truth. Instead it could be just an argument created by the first humans freed and transmitted for generations...
Please let me know your thinking

machines in and of themselves would be impervious to atmospheric tempreature so control of the weather would serve no purpose for the machines - however, the major loss of heat due to a global ice age would negate the current design of the current battery pods. the loss of heat would be tremendous and dramatically reduce overall energy output for each pod without proper insulation.

we are given too little information but we can narrow down to two possibilities.

1. there is an insulation mechansim for each pod that we have not seen to protect the energy source against an impending ice age.
2. the way the sky was scorched produces enough infra-red radiation (heat) in the atmosphere as to hinder an ice-age.

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Where in the movie do they say anything about there not being any oxygen. Just because they scorched the sky, doesn't mean there's no oxygen.
The pipes that are in their throats (ie. the humans stuck in the matrix in their pods) are used purely to serve them oxygen because they are submerged in that goo. If they had no pipes to feed them oxygen, they would drown. So when Neo escapes from his Pod, he no longer needs the pipe to breath because there already is oxygen in the Real World.

Friction wrote:

Where in the movie do they say anything about there not being any oxygen. Just because they scorched the sky, doesn't mean there's no oxygen. The pipes that are in their throats (ie. the humans stuck in the matrix in their pods) are used purely to serve them oxygen because they are submerged in that goo. If they had no pipes to feed them oxygen, they would drown. So when Neo escapes from his Pod, he no longer needs the pipe to breath because there already is oxygen in the Real World.

There is no sun. There are no trees. There is no oxygen

a simple question must have a simple answer. don't read to far into it. Think about it the machines need humans to live which means they know how to produce an artifical oxygen and instead of bottling it (think periair from spaceballs) they release the oxygen into the atomsphere for easy and constant access to air to supply to the humans. instead of having to to supply a pipeline from the place air is manufactured all the way to the pod farms. Plus this process combined with the massive pod towers and various other thing that the machines have going on prevent an Ice Age just because the clouds trap that heat instead of releasing it.

If you read the 160 page comic demo thingy on whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com..., there are still plants and animals alive in certain parts of the world.

One point needs clarification - the idea that all the oxygen in the atmosphere comes from trees is incorrect, most of it is actually generated by plankton in the oceans.

We still have the problem that if the entire surface of the earth is cut off (oceans included) from sunlight, then every living thing will eventually die. Sorry.

It all comes down to energy. Sure, you can obtain oxygen from water, but this chemical reaction requires energy. And yes, the human body will always consume more energy than it can generate.

My theory is that not all of the surface of the earth is cut off from the sun.

well then

OUSIDE THE MATRIX:
yeh maybe all the trees have burned down and all that... but still Earth has an immense (correct word?) amount of air left...

even if there's no air then the machines (they are hi tech i believe) have found a way to create artificial air... the sentinals may need the atmosphere in order to manuever themselves around (by the way how do those tentacles make them fly anyway)

INSIDE THE MATRIX:
yeh although those tubes and plugs are not connected to the lungs, only to the spine and arms, legs and head, that liquid (okay i'm NOT SURE) that red liquid may be of some liquid oxygen or sumthing... have u wathced abbyss (i THINK its that movie) a person had to go really deep down to the ocean floor, and being afraid that the air in the person's helmet would be pressurized or wutever and blow up and eventually kill that person, they used some liqquid oxygen thing and so it was like he was 'breathing water'.\

like fish!

I wonder if it is really oxygen at all.

I mean evolution and all - species adapting to whatever the environment requires in order to continue and reproduce (that is our purpose) - what if there had been sufficient time (i mean eons) for humans to evolve and survive on poorer levels of oxygen. What we actually breathe now is not pure oxygen, the most populus gas in the atmosphere is nitrogen ( i think i could be wrong )

Or there's the whole engineering level in Zion - i'm sure they produce oxygen there, and all the ships would produce oxygen.

If there are people/machines/whoever producing oxygen somewhere, then there would be an oveload somewhere and it would be released into the atmosphere somewhere along the line....

A very good question, thanks for the thinking time.

well in reloaded, counceler Hamman (i think) talks about what would happen if the machines on the engenering level were shut off, he actualy says something like, we'd have to think about what would happen to our light, our heat, OUR AIR... so yeah zion definatley has an air making machine.