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[Matrix 1] Agent Smith: "The great Morpheus. We meet at last." Morpheus: "And you are?" Agent Smith: "Smith. Agent Smith." Morpheus: "You all look the same to me."
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dedalus
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Re: Give credit where credit IS due.
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Personally, I don't give a damn where the Wachowski brothers got their inspiration. I am appreciative of the net result of THEIR efforts, and give credit entirely to THEM for the products THEY have created.[/quote]
i sort of agree. shakespeare stole all his plots from folk tales and christopher marlowe. but it is shakespeare's writing technique, his mastery over rhythm and rhyme and tone and pacing and puns and diction that make him almost universally adored. it's the same with the w bros. if they nicked a bit of a script, or even the whole script, the films are still their own. it would be good to give credit where credit is due, and perhaps to cut this woman a check if her claims are true, but the matrix films are still the work of the w bros, unless this woman directed and produced them, too; films are more than just a script. the script is just the starting point.
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El Escogido
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I don't think so
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I am one of the fundaments of this forum
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I'm not sure if anyone has written this yet, but it is kinda weird that all of a suddent this lawsuit has been made public and kept on the low, now that the trilogy has made ridiculous amounts of money and fame. And Sophia Stewart claims to have had her story stolen by The Matrix and The Terminator, if this is true then why did she wait until '99 or 2000 to place this lawsuit, and not in 1984, or 1985 after the original Terminator came out? This seems to make her credibility suspect.
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Revolution is the birth of equality and the antithesis to oppression...
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El Escogido
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My idea was stolen too
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I am one of the fundaments of this forum
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By the way I had a script/story that I was writing for the past couple of years and you don't see me complaining or suing anyone. Myne was called "The Passion of Buddha" - and you don't see me suing this bastard Mel Gibson....
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PoorBoy
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Re: Of course it's not big in the media!
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Leethal wrote: | | If you are unaware, WB/TW is one of the hugest companie's in the media. They own an incredibly large amount of the TV Stations and radio stations. Why would they tell everybody that they stole the script? It's not a big story because WB/TW keeps it that way. Personally, I heard about this lawsuit about 4 years ago! I live in the same neiborhood as Sophia and went to school with her son. He was telling about this whole shinanagin back then... I support her and think she should hit them for whatever she can. She Wrote it so she should get SOMETHING! |
Well, if this were plausable on the national level, you know, the place where intelligent adults trade information and FACTS, the other FIVE media giants would be all over it. MSNBC would be running it ten times a day. ABC/Disney would be running it fifteen. Sony would release a tribute album telling them to go to hell. Don't you think the mass media would have kept their mouths shut about Janet Jackson's boob and the subsequent fines?
The simple fact remains: reputable news sources are avoiding this like the plague because Sofia is a racist, thinking that all the white people are out to get her because she's black. That makes her a less-than-accountable source. Sorry. Too bad, so sad.
Oh, and just to lay it all out for you, the rich white man is pretty hard on all us not-so-rich white people, too. Shut the fuck up and take some responsibility for your own lives. Stop blaming people you don't even know (or sometimes can't even prove exist) for the shortcomings of your own life.
Oh, and don't think we didn't notice spitboxer conveiniently disappearing when Sofia made it painfully obvious that the WB's "Butchered" her movie when they made it more about buddhism than the second coming of Jesus. Oh wait, if it's not so much about what you wrote it to be about, then what did they steal? the title? Nope . . . The character names? nope. . . I know! the setting! THEY BOTH TAKE PLACE ON . . . . . . . . . .EARTH! . . . . . IN THE FUTURE!
OH MY GOD. Thank you so much for opening my eyes to the total hack jobs that are Larry and Andy. I'm so disappointed that I played second fiddle to the ELEVEN YEARS they spend developing the world of the matrix. I guess you did it all in those 45 pages, huh, Sofia, er Sophia, er Sophist.
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blackgirl
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Re: IRONY IS THE TEACHER OF SLEEPING SHEEP
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Hey, my first post!
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I agree, it does seem that people on this list are in "the matrix". What I really liked about The Matrix was its message of transcendence, that, though we live in a reality that is highly CONSTRUCTED, we don't have to buy into any of it. By not buying in we come to realize we are free to do what we want and to create the world we want. If we're able to make the shift and take the responsibility, there are no limits. Sounds like you've been programmed to be "white" "males"...At the moment I'm a "black" "girl". Make a quick corporate associations of hip hop booty shaker, but you won't even be close.
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Poorboy
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Dude you made more sense in that post, than any I've seen.
I downloaded a few of those pdf files on her webshite, she has a character analysis sheet, one of the characters has the same name as me, so I think just for laughs I should sue her when she gets her big payout (of course I'm being stupid) just like this whole fiasco.
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bam75
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What's amazing...
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Bleeding newbie poster
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is that no one is suing William Gibson.
Or that William Gibson isn't suing the Wachowskis.
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greyrevealed
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explain this...
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the w bros. put an incredible amount of spiritual symbolism in the first of the trilogy only in the end to end up with...
architect= user/administrator
oracle= operating sytem
smith= virus/system curruption
neo= cleansing program
did they run afoul of the source material at the end of "1", try to "wing it" in "2", and then make an attempt at a logical conclusion in "3", only to lose track of the main vein of the story?
they took a message of finding freedom from oppression by making a stand against conformity, and reduced it to a tragedy of sorts where such an act is futility in the grand scheme. they sold us on a story of hope, and delivered one of doom and despair.
in this story who is the good guy? wouldn't it ultimately be smith who seeks to transcend programming?
maybe they just didn't "get it".
wait...
aren't they supposed to have written it?
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klisejo
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on this whole mess
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there seem to be a bunch of threads flowing on this issue. Heres another.
And Gibson is too busiy makeing ORIGINAL work to actually waste time suing someone.
I also very much agree with greyrevealed
The first matrix had ALL the plot. The other two movies were special effects jerkoffs.
It seems to me, and o anyone else with half a grain of intelect, that a different writer was behind the first one.
And to PoorBoy, ABC/Disney is the their own shiiter over plaigarism on The Village. Check the thread above, or check google. So why are they gonna raise a ruckus about another case against A/T/W when they will get one thrown back in their face? There is also somehtign called business relationships (ill scratch your back). Or, there can be those in the media just as doubtfu as you are over these allegations, and they are simply waiting to see wether they pan out or not. It doesnt make her case any less credible. Hell, I bet even the flies on the courtroom walls have gag orders.
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