»Sati...Next Oracle? Next One?«

Sati is probably the biggest question in Matrix Revoultions...
Besides whether Neo really died or not...
Anyway...Sati's character is baffling and I have heard many things about who she is.
Some people have said that Sati is the next Oracle. It would seem a good theory, because obviously the Oracle will have an end someday...programs break down. However, if Sati is the next Oracle, then who is the next Architect? Plus, Sati is very intuitive. She asks a lot of questions, but she seems to be very comfortable and confident. As the Architect said, the oracle was an intuitive program created to investigate the human psyche.
However, another question is whether she is the Next One? Think about this, Morpheous said that when the Matrix was originally created there was someone born inside that manipulate the matrix. For example, Sati makes the sunrise for Neo. Sati might be the next One (All she would need to do was to find a human host to replicate herself onto?)
While I don't agree with The One theory, you have to admit, you can't count it out.
I tend to beleive that Sati is neither of the above. She is simply an innovative program that was about to be deleted, but because of Neo (and everyone else-path of the one is made by the many) she is now able to bring about good things!

Let's hear your thoughts!

i think sati was jsut a new breed of program. she was created with no purpose, and thusly, she faced deletion. however, when she was smuggled in by the merovingian express, she was saved. for the time being, the world is without machine/ human war so all of the programs don't necessarily need purposes. i think thats why sati can do whatever the hell she wants---like make a sunrise.

And that is how we come up with something.
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speakin of the sunrise, that scene reminds me a lot of a televishn ad i saw on my holiday in australia for some company, i dont remember what it was. any1 form down under here that noes wat im talkin bout?

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Sati is a program created without a purpose and a product of Rama and Kamala ( love machine style). Rama (her father) loves her so much that he can't bear to see her deleted since she had no purpose inside the Matrix . Rama then consulted with the Oracle and eventually struck a deal with Merv (frenchman) to smuggle her back into Matrix so she can be an exile and continue to live.

What I gather from the Mobil ave train scene is the storyteller is trying to show us that Program/machine are become more sophisticated and evolving to the point where they can experience and feel love. Nothing more , nothing less.

Now Sati does show some potential.. She is very inquisitive and ask many question. So she may have a potential to become the next Oracle. At the end, Sati program eventually become useful or had purpose. She is now the program for the Sunrise

That is a nice thought. Finally someone that agrees with me in that maybe this is a matter of evolution and two different races becoming closer and closer as beings.
Interesting

After Neo's code is entered into the Matrix and it is reloaded, love and compassion, the main pillars of Neo's life, are in the code. Sati isn't destroyed because the machines have discovered "love". Rather than delete Sati, they give her a purpose, in her case the sunrise.

The Oracle still lives, I do not see why there would be a new one. The same Oracle has guided all the previous anomalies as has the Architect presented them the sadistic choice.

So Sati is not a new Oracle, she is more of a program that understands better than anyone else human emotions, and of course has a purpose (that by the way was not given by machines) but this time it is more like what she feels like to do

How does Sati gain this purpose then? She just decides, "ok, I'm going to make the sun rise"? She faces deletion in the third movie, because she has no purpose. I don't see anyway that she just gets a purpose. It seems clear she doesn't get this ability until AFTER the matrix is rebooted with the code inherent to the One, at which point Sati is endowed with this ability. Perhaps, it was an unconcious gift from Neo to Sati deep within his mind. Who knows?

I certainly don't believe she just all of a sudden understands human emotions and that's why the sun rises.

Nimmm wrote:

How does Sati gain this purpose then? She just decides, "ok, I'm going to make the sun rise"?

Why not?. think about it she is the next step in evolution of AI, so she (as Neo) can change the Matrix at will, and has the "power of choice"

She is a program, and lives in a world that is based on rules. Neo's powers are because he causes fluctuations in the most basic equations. If the Matrix can be reshaped by a program's sheer will, I believe the Matrix would be too unstable. I don't know if humans would ever accept the program with such chaotic "choices."

Isn't speculation great?

Finding wrote:

speakin of the sunrise, that scene reminds me a lot of a televishn ad i saw on my holiday in australia for some company, i dont remember what it was. any1 form down under here that noes wat im talkin bout?

G'Day finding i am from western australia. Can you discribe this ad and i might be able to help you out.

I dont believe that Sati is the next oracle. for the simple fact, which we see in revolutions is that the oracle can just get a new shell. And like Nimmm said "The same Oracle has guided all the previous anomalies" (ie. The five previous ones)

I on the other hand have always believed that Sati was destined to be the next one. She could very well be it is possible but i started to think of something different, after watching revolutions a few more times. Is it possible that sati could be a guide, that her purpose was not emotion, or the sunrise, but to help the seventh One along with the Oracle.

mazin wrote:

Sati is probably the biggest question in Matrix Revoultions...

Not sure about the biggest, but how about most irrelevant?

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Satis purpose is simple she will be sold into an arrainged marriage in return for some cows chickens and some killer monkeys that steal your money and food.

How can nobody see this! She had a "halo" of light around her head at the train station. Seraph said that he protects that which matters most. He does not protect neo or the oracle he protects sati. At the end of revolutions everything goes back to normal indication the 7th version of the matrix. To God 7 is the perfect number. I think that the wachowski bros. definately used symbolism to show that the one is reborn in this version. Morpheus said that the one could create anything that he wanted in the matrix. Neo didn't do that, he would have created somthing to kill Smith instantly. Although sati created the sunset at the end of revolutions...yeah

Satis purpose is simple she will be sold into an arrainged marriage in return for some cows chickens and some killer monkeys that steal your money and food. Definition Of Dowry :- Dowry or Dahej is the payment in cash or/and kind by the bride's family to the bridegroom' s family along with the giving away of the bride ( called Kanyadaan) in Indian marriage . Kanyadanam is an important part of Hindu marital rites. Kanya means daughter, and dana means gift. Hence the Birth of Slurpees. Come Again!

Okay Mr. seven eleven. I think you just won the first place prize for biggest idiot in the world. Your monkies just were about this close(-) to beating you though. If you're going to talk in this forum at least say somthing that thats worth our time.

caspian wrote:

How can nobody see this! She had a "halo" of light around her head at the train station.

I think she is not being protrade as an angle, but more the bright light is to do with the whole hindu sun god, that being ramakandra, sati's father.

caspian wrote:

Seraph said that he protects that which matters most. He does not protect neo or the oracle he protects sati. At the end of revolutions everything goes back to normal indication the 7th version of the matrix.

I think he protects everthing which matters the most for the endding of the war. (ie orical, sati, and even neo.)

caspian wrote:

To God 7 is the perfect number. I think that the wachowski bros. definately used symbolism to show that the one is reborn in this version. Morpheus said that the one could create anything that he wanted in the matrix. Neo didn't do that, he would have created somthing to kill Smith instantly. Although sati created the sunset at the end of revolutions...yeah

This is what i have said all along.

What the hell? Halo of light?

Don't forget - she was helped to stay in the matrix by the king of the underworld - Mirovingian.

If she is all that great, howcome she is to be deleted? Howcome she needs the devils help?

omega wrote:

What the hell? Halo of light? Don't forget - she was helped to stay in the matrix by the king of the underworld - Mirovingian. If she is all that great, howcome she is to be deleted? Howcome she needs the devils help?

because she was created without purpose.... And with out the Mervs help, she would have been deleted, Rama saved her for love.

Love doesn't really matter...
Even Charles Manson had a girlfriend...

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Purpose or no.. Sati is not a saint, she is not an angel... She was brought into this world with the help of the Matrix's darkest figure - Mirovingian...

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I never got the connection:

Mirovingian hates oracle - Oracle hates him and yet they both make it work when it comes to smuggling in Sati...

omega wrote:

Love doesn't really matter... Even Charles Manson had a girlfriend...

Love does matter, for you see, if there was no love to begin with the Rama would not have made the deal with the merv. I also believe that Sati was smuggled into the matrix for the very reason that she was a program that had the ability to feel and love.

omega wrote:

Purpose or no.. Sati is not a saint, she is not an angel... She was brought into this world with the help of the Matrix's darkest figure - Mirovingian...

I never said she was an angle or saint, but she does have a purpose, everthing has a purpose. You can't be told what your purpose is, you have to find it or figure it out, in this case, i believe that sati's purpose is to help the one.

and the only reason why she was brought in to the matrix with the help of the merv, is that he has connections, ie the trainman.

omega wrote:

I never got the connection: Mirovingian hates oracle - Oracle hates him and yet they both make it work when it comes to smuggling in Sati...

He never once said that, the merv, only want the orical eye's so that he can become more powerful. and in the oricals case, she was the actual one that got sati into the matrix, because it was she who told Rama to see the merv, so that he could use his connections to bring in Sati.