»Relevance people?«

Another Smith wrote:

... so the ancient Egyptian God Osiris wasn't killed and then 3 days later ressurected? And the so called Lords Prayer, was originally a prayer to the Ancient Egyptian God Amon ? - - Who, by the way was of utmost importance in THE AGE OF ARIES and was symbolised as a RAM...

I don't have a problem with that. It looks like a gifted prophecy. Great events throws shadows in front.

Wisdom and revelation is not exclusive in the Bible. That is also not claimed by the Bible itself (only just by some fundamentalists). In contrast the Bible just claims to convay the most important message. The true gospel can be abreviatedly explained by John 3:16 and the following

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16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

Much of the Matrix trilogy refers to this but it looks also somehow defered.

Lost wrote:

... but Just-a-Program, you didnt actually provide me with an answer. I asked why the sentinel went through Neo. You answered me with this "Straight Explanation": Just-a-Program wrote: The answer is easy: As Neo showed extended superpowers to destroy many of the incoming sentinel it looks that this power is going to save them. But as the sentinels are way too much it is just teaching a lesson: Even if the power you feel like invincible, it is all illusion: there will be allways somone or something stronger than you. The solution is to find a more intelligent way out, e.g. negotiate. Everything fits fine when you look for patterns of wisdom. The relevance of this is...? And if i'm not mistaken, didnt he destroy the bombs, not the sentinels? Lost

Perhaps I didn't recognize it right. It looks to me that Neo destroyd so much of the incoming objects, bombs as sentinels, thousands of them. But it was overwhelmingly too much even for Neo. I would appreciate other posters to

1- What happend? - just your perception

2- Why?

Lorcoft wrote:

The Matrix deliberately stays away from answering questions regarding afterlife and the soul. Everything that occurs happens in a state of awareness of only 1 reality, this being the Matrix/Machine worlds.

You are right - if you watchthe story very straight. But as the meaning of life is going to loose its binding to the human body - doesn't this imply quite a lot?
How so, as the people dying in the Matrix are also dying in the Machine world? That was the base rule but it had been superseded several times: With neohimselv (M1), Trinity(M2) and the whole lot of so-called programs, wich dosen't seem to need a 'real' body at all.

Lorcoft wrote:

After being blinded, Neo is able to see things with a "second sight" when he looks at Bane, he sees Smith complete with sunglasses. When he looks outside the ship he is able to see the energy flow radiating (not code.. there is no "gold code" outside the Matrix). Possibly, since he is able to see Smith inside Bane, what Neo is seeing is the cohesive energy that drives Banes physical body.

I think the "gold code" is vastly overestimated by some posters. It is just an effect and a differnet 'view' of the world. And neo saw Smith inside Bane as he revealed himself. This refers much more to the teaching of the Oracle: You will perceive this the best what you understand (slightly extrapolated of Oracles lessons)

Zaa Nayazu wrote:

I mean... isn't it?. You can come up with whatever theory gets to your mind and still be valid for some. And that is the beauty of it. Nobody can and will ever have the whole truth, and maybe our best status is that of free-minded people. Maybe that way we learn something.

In essence I like to agree but the phrase Nobody can and will ever have the whole truth is contradicting itself, because it is a claim of knowledge what it denies. I only say, I don't see it all and I have no knowledge if someone has or will have the complete view. Paul, for instance, was positive to grab that.

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1 Corinthians 13 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Just-a-Program wrote:

Zaa Nayazu wrote: I mean... isn't it?. You can come up with whatever theory gets to your mind and still be valid for some. And that is the beauty of it. Nobody can and will ever have the whole truth, and maybe our best status is that of free-minded people. Maybe that way we learn something. In essence I like to agree but the phrase Nobody can and will ever have the whole truth is contradicting itself, because it is a claim of knowledge what it denies. I only say, I don't see it all and I have no knowledge if someone has or will have the complete view. Paul, for instance, was positive to grab that. Quote: 1 Corinthians 13 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Hey pal, i know, i am strictly speaking about the movie, not life. Sorry if i did not explain that right. I know that if i say "Nobody", i am stating that i absolutely know that, and obsiously contradict the next sentence, got it
And to reinforce, i believe that i could see the trilogy a thousand times, and a thousand times i would come up with something new, a new message... and that is what i tried to express.
Hey by the way. I read "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love". Sounds familiar?... quite a quote. Makes me think lots of stuff... hmmmm....