»Was the matrix idea stolen from Sophia Stewart?«

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As you maybe have heard, Sofia Stewart claims (and has filed a lawsuit) that the Wachowski brothers have stolen the idea to the matrix movies from her book "The third eye".

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How about a "I don't know" entry?

If it's "I don't know" then don't vote. One day maybe you will have an opinion and come back

Well what about "Not enough evidence to prove it, but I wouldn't be suprised anyway..." then, which is what I really think.

I won't add anything now, because this poll is too simple anyway:

"Yes, she had some part in it"
"They couldn't steal it, because Sofia stole it herself"
etc etc

this reminds me of how White Wolf is taking the makers of Underworld to court saying that the plot for the story was stolen from one of their books...

3 things

the funny thing about "art" is that nothing is new... everything has been done it is just about different interpretations of the same idea

also... say I design websites... perhaps 3 months ago I saw a site that had a border that I liked... now I am working on a site and I am thinking of a border and I create something similar to the one I saw 3 months ago... I didn't steal it/rip it deliberately but I was influenced by it

and... if they did rip off her idea deliberately then I hope she takes them to the cleaners but you have to remember that the entertainment industry moves very fast and it is one thing to have the idea and another to make it happen

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I just wish they had ripped her off for parts 2 and 3 as well. Then the trilogy would be good.

Speaking of rip-offs, how come we haven't seen too many Matrix movie clones?

I mean, with films like Terminator, there was a slew of "not-quite-human, not-quite-machine" flicks about. With La Femme Nikita there were a number of "ordinary-folk-as-spies" type films as well (e.g. The Long Kiss Goodnight).

But with The Matrix, where are the rip-offs (expects someone to post a list)?

perhaps no one has the heart to rip it off in full

since 1999 when the 1st one came out it has influcenced virtually every action/sci fi flick that has come out as far as action/fighting/effects

cnm72 wrote:

perhaps no one has the heart to rip it off in full

please note that I am thankful for this...

Since matrix is already a combination of films like:

total recall
ghost in the shell
open your eyes (remade as after the matrix as "vanilla sky", but that sucked)

And even so what are equilibrium and underworld if not matrix copies? It is not so much the idea of being in a fake world that is being copied since the ideas have been done so many times already. Instead it is the style which is being copied since that is what was really original about the matrix.

Fatpie42 wrote:

And even so what are equilibrium and underworld if not matrix copies?

Not familiar with equilibrium (details please) and underworld is yet to be released here in Oz -- neat little promo page at sonypictures.com.... Being a Goth, black and leather is always "in" for me

Fatpie42 wrote:

Since matrix is already a combination of films like: total recall ghost in the shell open your eyes (remade as after the matrix as "vanilla sky", but that sucked) And even so what are equilibrium and underworld if not matrix copies? It is not so much the idea of being in a fake world that is being copied since the ideas have been done so many times already. Instead it is the style which is being copied since that is what was really original about the matrix.

GODDAMNIT


it isn't combination of total recall and ghost in the shell.
i think u r prejudice-minded

total recall is about being in a dream
open your eyes is about being in a dream

the wachowskis have admitted they based many ideas of the matrix on anime (the most obvious influence of which is Ghost In The Shell)

What was I prejudiced about exactly?

Also - Equilibrium is a rather classy little movie starring Christian Bale where one of the secret police in a totalitarian state questions his principles - many action sequences with similar style to the matrix ensue.

Fatpie42 wrote:

Equilibrium is a rather classy little movie starring Christian Bale where one of the secret police in a totalitarian state questions his principles - many action sequences with similar style to the matrix ensue.

Sounds similar to "Minority Report". When was it released?

Fatpie42 wrote:

total recall is about being in a dream open your eyes is about being in a dream the wachowskis have admitted they based many ideas of the matrix on anime (the most obvious influence of which is Ghost In The Shell) What was I prejudiced about exactly? Also - Equilibrium is a rather classy little movie starring Christian Bale where one of the secret police in a totalitarian state questions his principles - many action sequences with similar style to the matrix ensue.

I agree with you about "being in a dream" but the idea of the matrix isn't a combination of those two movies i mentioned.I haven't seen 3rd one you mentioned.

Well, she's a LITTLE TEENY BIT late, isn't she?

Um.... Equilibrium was released on DVD in the UK early this autumn.

Open Your Eyes is a fantastic film and the only film where I have not found Penelope Cruz's presence pointless or irritating. It is a Spanish film, but not a silly one. Don't make the mistake of watching Vanilla Sky instead since it is superceded by the original in terms of acting, structure and relevance of dialogue.

Sorry went for a rant here....

------------------------minor spoiler within the next paragraph-----------------------------

In other words the original does not contain stupid lines like "I shall meet you in another life where we are both cats" (don't be fooled - there is no relevance to this line in the movie at all) or odd references to Bob Dylan albums (for goodness sake he's just been listening to Radiohead in his car and he is supposed to be dreaming about Bob Dylan albums?).
(Also why would ANYBODY choose Penelop Cruz over Cameron Diaz? Please! )

i just want to say th 14 people who voted that they stole her ideas are complete MORONS. thanks have a nice day

So much ANGER! lol!

Agent Zero wrote:

i just want to say th 14 people who voted that they stole her ideas are complete MORONS. thanks have a nice day

No.
It was stolen from an RPG called SLA Industries

wake wrote:

No. It was stolen from an RPG called SLA Industries

Ooooh give us a link! What is SLA Industries about?

I'm sure I typed "Just my two testicles"!

testicles!