»Neo is Alive!«

Today, I saw the Matrix Revolutions for the 3rd time, and I noticed something that might hint at Neo being alive. After Neo destroys all the Smiths, it shows that in the real world, Neo is dragged onto some sort of a machine ship. It then switches to the gold encoding view. When in the gold encoding view, Neo is giving of alot of light, ALOT. This could possibly be a sign that Neo is not dead, just in another one of those coma things or maybe just knocked out. This could also point out that Neo is some sort of a Machine. Anyone with meon this one?

I highly doubt that he could be alive.

He sacrificed himself in order to save Zion. Smith is his negative, so they cancelled each other out. He knew that the only way to save Zion was to let Smith take control over him. When the Machine God withdrew the cables from Neo, it said "It is done", probably meaning that his life has been terminated. Plus, he looked pretty much dead to me...he wasn't breathing.

In another forum I read that there's a plaque on the bench that the Oracle sits on at the end that says "In Memory of Thomas A. Anderson".

Sorry, but I strongly believe that he's dead.

When the machine god thingy said, "it is done" i really do not think he is talking about neo's life. i think hes talking about the battle between smith and neo.

Neo is dead. At least the biological part of him. He is glowing gold at the end because the machine part of him still exists, thus the Oracle says "Oh I think we'll see him again." When Neo is shown earlier in the movie he is never glowing because he is still mostly human. Hence all the human references in the second movie.

I think.

The Neo as part man part machine/program theory makes the most sense to me.

Yeah he's dead, I think the bright gold flashes (in Machine Vision/code) was Neo's code getting disseminated so the Matrix could get reloaded.

- Klaymen

The Matrix was past the point of being reloaded, a completely new system would have to be set in place if this was done, and the Architect said that any that wanted out would be let out, so the Matrix couldn't be reloaded in the same way.

lessthegoddess wrote:

He sacrificed himself in order to save Zion. Smith is his negative, so they cancelled each other out.

"Some rules can be bent, others can be broken"... since when did they follow ANY rules?

Neo is alive... but it all depends on how you think SMITH died...? opinions on that? What exactly killed Smith?

Personally, I think Neo is dead. After all, The Architect said that Neo's BODY had to be reinserted in order to reboot the system, he didn't necessarily have to be alive. Now if we get into the philosophy behind the story, you must consider the Wachowski Bro's use of Buddhism. I believe he has been reincarnated in his next form in the next version of the Matrix. His corporeal existence is no more. And as for the Smith/Neo assimilation....I also believe that was the moment BOTH die, cancelling each other out. I just think that the next round has begun and the architect and oracle worked out a few kinks of the previous version while attempting to gain more control themselves...after all, they are each other's opposites as well. there seems to be a hint of Sigmund Freud's "Id" concept in the trilogy.

So what you're saying is that Neo was no different than the other 'ones'...?

I don't think the cycle will continue like it did before. I think Neo can now oversee the matrix and maintain the peace.

as long as the matrix exists, the anamoly exists. it must exist because the architecht cannot solve the remainder of the equation that embodies the one. think of the anamoly is a very specialized agent - one that brings balance workaround to a system that the architect is desperately trying to balance.

the only way to truly destroy the anamoly is to shut down the matrix.

the matrix can only be shutdwon in two scenarios:

1. the machine race is completly destroyed

2. the sky is cleaned.

- drumcode -

i think this new matrix/machines/humans set up is the third renaissance, as referring back to the animatrix. First man created ai to serve and for a time it was good, then humans rejected the machines once they got their own minds so the machines created 01 and for a time it was good. then there was a war and by a biblical act man and machine once again lived in peace with new conditions (end of revolutions) and for a time it was good. either this cycle is going to keep repeating itself in different ways (not necessarily involving the matrix all the time, or this time, as "revolutions" suggests humans and machines will finally form an equilibrium with each other and the surrounding environment, like undo operation dark storm maybe and bring back the sun so we can all be dandy once and for all. end maybe?

The sequel to the matrix trilogy....


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The end of the Matrix will be THE MATRIX : SHUTDOWN...

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the light seemed to be pulsing from his body outward through the wires and cables into everything. This, together with the begining credits suggest their is a code within the code of the matrix. IE Neo lives within everything in the matrix. He is a code within the code of the matrix. This would be in keeping with the savior mythologies.

Is Neo alive? Yes. As he lays motionless on that hovercraft, the surroundings changed into a third-person view of how Neo saw the Machine City. Everything gold with light shining like the sun. But getting to my point, if you noticed, Neo's body hasn't become dimmer or dark for that matter. This signifies there is still life within him. Further proving this theory is earlier in the movie, Neo kills Bane/Smith with a sledgehammer(?). Right when he kills him, the camera changes into a first person view. Since Neo is blinded from the fight, he only sees programs from the matrix. Bane/Smith gets hit and he shatters into nothingness. So in light of this evidence, Neo's "aura" should have faded into nothing if he did die.

The light coming from Neo as he's being taken away does not indicate life, because in the shots of Neo in gold-view mode, there is no light coming from him.

I think it's just the remnants of the large amount of energy the machines pumped into him.

golden light can't be a proof to say that neo is alive. because i can also prove that he is dead by saying there's a lot golden light because neo helped machines to get rid of smith and once he is dead, machines someone raisened the golden light to show some respect.

the degree of the light is not relevant. because;

in the matrix reloaded, the architect gives two doors to neo to choose. the right door TO THE SOURCE, and left to zion (to save trinity). Neo choosed the left door and saved trinity but we can say that he CHOOSED the right door because EVENTUALLY disseminated TO THE SOURCE.

The body is dead but his essence is not.

Just like the 5 other Neos that came before him. It is impossible for Neo to have the same body over and over again. Once the unbalance is too great, it is where his essence reappears and takes in a human form (whether they all look the same is another discussion). So his essence is still alive.

PEACE does not last long, I believe that sometime in the next few centuries another war will ensue and this is when his essence will be forced to reappear again. Whether it be the same story over or the end to one of the sides (Human or Machines).

This is a though one. I doubt that any of us has the correct answer for this, he is either dead or alive, or somewhere in between.

i listen to the reasons why neo is alive and they suck.

you say he is still glowing, well when you die all the energy doent leave your body at once does it,no.

he still has enery and the light represents energy.

but he does live!

all that he did was allow smith to take his digital body.

but remember the orical, and others were also taken by smith and they returned to there old selves after the fall of smith. and someone said past neos ... well that is so wrong it hurts me.

there were past ones but not past neos.

you may say well past neos were on the screens but they were not.

they were the possible reactions that neo could have made.

and there were more screens then there were past ones anyway.

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cheeky_girl5748 wrote:

Further proving this theory is earlier in the movie, Neo kills Bane/Smith with a sledgehammer(?). Right when he kills him, the camera changes into a first person view. Since Neo is blinded from the fight, he only sees programs from the matrix. Bane/Smith gets hit and he shatters into nothingness. So in light of this evidence, Neo's "aura" should have faded into nothing if he did die.

Nah, babe, we see smith's image in the matrix shatter, but bane's body is clearly lying there

There is a possibility that Neo could be still alive, as a soul and not as a body. Programs need a memory hardware to exist. But Smith (a program) was able to copy himself to the brain. (Information in brain is represented by "weights" associated with each connection between neurons. Our mind (a program) is represented as "connection weights" between neurons, just like a high voltage (1) or a low voltage (0) in flip-flops(memory device)). So the converse could be true, that is mind (soul) could exist in memory hardware (RAM) like Smith did in human brain. Also Note that Neo seperated his mind from body when he touched the source.

He is "alive". He is the program Agent Anderson. Programs give off the "gold code".

you have to put it this way.
what if you loved someone as much as neo did to trinity?

i know that if she died, i would not give a **** what happened, as long as i took as many of those ****ers with me as possible.

after trinity died, the fact that neo had to sacrifice himself came so much easier to him.
the main reason he kept going had perished he had no reason to stay alive.
if someone i loved that much had died, thats how i would feel, cos you lose all sense of belonging, all sense of love and love for someone else, you feel so lonely.

i reckon thats what neo felt.

thats why his ultimatum with the machines at zero one was so suicidal.


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cheeky_girl5748 wrote:

you have to put it this way. what if you loved someone as much as neo did to trinity? i know that if she died, i would not give a **** what happened, as long as i took as many of those ****ers with me as possible. after trinity died, the fact that neo had to sacrifice himself came so much easier to him. the main reason he kept going had perished he had no reason to stay alive. if someone i loved that much had died, thats how i would feel, cos you lose all sense of belonging, all sense of love and love for someone else, you feel so lonely. i reckon thats what neo felt. thats why his ultimatum with the machines at zero one was so suicidal. If anyone want to chat to me about the matrix then please add me to msn > Stupid email address

no no no.

At the end of the movie Neo trancends even love. He has no fear, and no desires, only his will. Trinity no longer has anything to do with this.... Neo thinks he cant do what hes doing without her, but likes she tells him, he can and will. She says, she has done everything she can, gone as far as she can go. She has no purpose in this anymore, Neo's journey towards ultmiate enlightnment and sacrfice has trancended love and physical flesh. It makes perfect logical sense for the physical trinity to die, and for Neo to go on. When she dies, its not that he has no purpse to live! its the exact opposite!1 He has reached a nirvana of emptyness, he it purpose and will.

Smith asks, "Why, Mr. Anderson, why do you persist?"

Neo's reply is: "Because I choose to."

"everything that has a beginning has an end".... when Smith says this, exact words of the oracle. these words brings enlightment for Neo... it is inevitable is that Neo and Smith must merge, that was the beginning, and ultimately that is where they must end. The opposites, two unbalanced extremes of the equation are joined together, and ulitmately Neo accends into the source as "The One", the full balanced equation which spawns the loading of Matrix 4.0 and a new age for man and machienes.

I think love is one of the most important factors in these films, but sorry, you are way off with your interpretation of Neo's final actions. It is not about sucide and depression and his loss of will because of Trinitys death... to think that is to entirely miss the point and conclusion of Neos joureny.

Neo is the opposite of Smith.
When Smith assimilated Neo it was because Neo saw he needed to sacrifice himself to destroy Smith and because Neo was connected to the Source the machines simply deleted Smith.But Neo was also killed beacause he was a part of Smith now.
Also mark Morpheous words in M1
Neo:If youre killed in the matrix, you die here(Zion)?
Morpheous:The body cannot live without the mind.