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I have seen Matrix Revolutions and I want to comment on it [no theory discussion here!]

 

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ok the matrix series was in deed flawless, those who do not agree are intitled to there own oppinions but most likley didnt get it, did watch it thouroly enough, didnt watch the animatrix, and plain shouldnt be here but i am here to help, i am just a messenger, a pawn sent by the Ws to inform those who do not understand that the movie is exelent, and no i dont even no the Ws but it is my duty as i will meet them some day, but that is not pertinent.

the matrix:a false reality created by the machines to enslave humanity to harness there bio electricity for energy after we destroyed there first source of energy the sun, well we blanketed the sky in black clouds and such but same diff, the matrix was created to keep us under control while they lived but it is harder then it looks, the first matrix;

matrix 1: a flawless perfect world created with everything and anything everyone would need to live and enjoy there lives, this failed, we couldnt exept this(we as in humanity in the movie not as in us) because it made our minds expect to wake up as if it was a dream.
Matrix2: a better matrix design created according to the very grotesqueries of human life, it was an invirornment triumphed only by its failure, the problem was lack of choice.
Matrix3:most current design of the matrix, in order for this one to work they created an illusion of choice wich made it so that 99% or the people accepted the system, so for the 1% to accept they created the idea of zion to hold those who didnt accept it.
5 anomolies- the five anomoliies were the past ones, they had a gerneral love for all humanity, and the machines would destroy zion therefore giving the anomolies the choice to rebuild relocate and repopulate zion, or not, neo had a door two to go back and save trinity, this is y she is part of the prophecy,
trinity of the prophecy- neo is the one, smith is also the one only negetive, then trinity the one who loves the one.
names:
trinity= trinity of the proph
neo=o to the front and u got one
morpheus= greek god of slumber can awaked as well as put people into slumber.
smith= a number of things could be said about this name, but the most obious could be that it is a common name, smith has many of himself then again it could be a smith as he said in the first movie, "Morpheus:who are you." smith: "a smith, agent smith" Morpheus you all look the same to me. this could be as in a smith, one who creates, one who speacializes in creating or recreated that of wich he does, smith as seen can create more of himself and can recreate the matrix itself as seen in rev, this is also a possiblilty.
apoc= the apocolypes, the end of time wich comes soon?
the oracle= an oracle is the one who prophecizes
architecht= an architecht is one who designs and constructs as the architecht does to the matrix
tank= a powerful weapon of war, and a full human grown on zion
dozer= a bull dozer is a powerful machine aswell but it also could be like if u doze of ur a dozer, just a thought of that matter, but he is also very big and husky a full human as well as his brother
link= a part or peice that puts the puzzle together so to speak how this is relevent im not yet sure
switch= somthing used to turn on or off a flow of electricity or somthing that changes there mind from one thing to another to switch sides so to speak, this could mean many things i beleive it means she is one who kills machines, most likley one of the gunners for the nebekanezer
nebekanezer= a king from the bible, with Gods proteciotn he could not be harmed, this could mean that by morpheus beliefs that the one will protect his ship
vigilant= not to sure on this one ne thoughts
osiris=an egyptian god that is killed and reborn, this is representing the destructions and rebirths of zion
zion= well the binary coding 01 is in there just like the name of the machines first city 01, this basically means that they machines have completely switched sides on the war, they were once the weeklings the put downs, the ones under control, and now it is the humans
sereph=not to sure bout this one either nethoughts
letsee wat next well i guess now ill show you how the marovingian scene with the eyes of the oracle is significant

neo lost his eyes, yet he has the eye that sees the future, just like the oracle, the marovingian ironically was going to trade the neo(who posesses the eyes of the oracle) for the eyes themselves, and he doesnt mean bring me her eyes, he means the eyes to see the future, so this is a peace of irony, trinity didnt agree with this because it would lead her nowere she would exchange for neo, another form of neo in a way.

next how about that train program and the girl sati, well they are very significant, this place represents wat i think purgatory, and no im not cathlic, its a place in between heven and hell, this station was in between reality and unreality, how is this significant, well the oracle said that he was not yet ready to use the emp powers but he did, and he should have died but he wasnt ready for that either, so he went to purgatory, sati the little girl who apperes completley impertinent to the story line, well she is quite relevent, she has a love for her father, her father has a love for her, not strange at all exept that they are computer programs, well as i explained previously those without a dirrect connection to the matrix experience human emotions and such, he loves his daughter who has no purpose, and withough purpose u should not exist according to smith, well this is accually not true she has purpose, she later became the writer of the program to run the sunsets, at the end remember, u bet u do.

well my fingers are cramping but i have much to say, that fight at the end yes was very dragon ball zish i think but it was good ya. thats irrelevent, um ok the oracle is the mother of the matrix, smith coppied onto sereph and sati some say he didnt cus they are there again at the end, but you see they are programs that need to live, as well as the oracle, so they still lived inside of smith, wen the external shell of smith was removed they came out. btw i think that this guy another smith is fallowing me, every site i write at he is there, its creepin a bit, well neway
well i dont no wat to say next but if u have ne Qs i have answers for everything, you see i am the architecht of the matrix i no everything, i see everything, and you no wat i see that there is not going to be a matrix 4 but the matrix game takes place before neos arival for those who care.

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ne questions at all, i can answer nething about the matrix, cmon u got to wonder somin

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Ok... wow great findings... the question is did this really explain the Matrix... it explains the setting and characters, but not the plot.

Nice spelling.

Did you copy these ideas from the site itself?

did you find them somewhere else?

It sounds to me like YOU didn't get it, but sure you can like it as a plain action movie with anime style fighting.

I see you didn't make any comments BEFORE revolutions came out.

Should I explain the matrix with what it's already on this site...

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didnt explain the plot? well i thought people would have gotten the plot themselves its quit easy to get, and no i accualy wrote this junk and please i asked for questions not complaints

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oh and some of the stuff, ya i didnt explain the plot but people are saying how stuff is irrelevent to the plot and i was clearing that up, and ya i do like the movie for an action with anime fighting style, and love it for its intense story line and intreguing charecter designs exuse my spelling

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It sounds to me like YOU didn't get it, but sure you can like it as a plain action movie with anime style fighting.

I see you didn't make any comments BEFORE revolutions came out.
wat r u trying to say here, i understand the movie perfectly and also ya i didnt make comments on this lousy site no offense before revolutions came out, y would i i wanted to talk to people bout rev not reloaded i talked bout reloaded on a reloaded site

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do you really need to reply 3 times to a single post?

It's possible I didn't get the movie... true... that could be one reason I'm here... ok you want a question ok:

Why is the Keymaker no longer necessary in the system if Neo must reach the Architect to make a choice as all previous ones did, and how was he aware the Merovingian couldn't stop him from playing a role on what was to come?

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no i didnt need to respond 3 times, but i sence that this questions of urs is just a mere test but neverthe less i will answer ur Q

the keymaker: well as smith said, it is purpose that is the reason we are here, so if he had no purpose he wouldnt exist, so he the machines new wat he must do, and the machines create events in ones life to lure them up to the point they need them to, such as the architecht wanted neo to come to the source, you could see in the first matrix that the architecht was planning everything out from the time he was caputured by smith and being interviewed, the tvs watching him were the ones in the archs room so u can tell from that that he is making it seem that he has the choice wen in fact he is accualy forcing him to come to the source. so to answer ur question, control, its just another form of control, an illusion of choice to drive neo to do wat he wants him to do, and i dont no wat ur asking about the merovingian thing state that more clear and ill get back to u

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is ne one there Tripleconfused

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the keymaker: well as smith said, it is purpose that is the reason we are here, so if he had no purpose he wouldnt exist, so he the machines new wat he must do, and the machines create events in ones life to lure them up to the point they need them to, such as the architecht wanted neo to come to the source, you could see in the first matrix that the architecht was planning everything out from the time he was caputured by smith and being interviewed, the tvs watching him were the ones in the archs room so u can tell from that that he is making it seem that he has the choice wen in fact he is accualy forcing him to come to the source. so to answer ur question, control, its just another form of control,


contol it's just another form on control... WHY was the keymaker no longer necessary? OK? so the Agent was not trying to capture the Keymaker and by stating

Agent: "You are no longer necessary"
he was playing a joke on Neo who couldn't hear the Agent... OK?


Smith: Well, well, it's been a long time. I remember chasing you was like chasing a ghost.
Seraph: I have beaten you before

So Agents only chase exiles as a form to control Neo? OK?

how does this explain the keymaker NO LONGER BEING NECESSARY?


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Actually without purpose we would not exist? ok?
How about this:

Smith: Can you feel it, Mr. Anderson, closing in on you? Well, I can. I really should thank you for it, after all, it was your life that taught me the purpose of all life. The purpose of life is to end.

and then

Smith: Why Mr. Anderson?
Why do you do it? Why get up? Why keep fighting?
Do you believe you're fighting for something?
For more than your survival?
Can you tell me what it is? Do you even know?
Is it freedom? Or truth? Perhaps peace? Could it be for love?
Illusions! Mr. Anderson. Vagaries of perception! The temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself...


DID YOU MISS THIS ENTIRE DIALOGUE?


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an illusion of choice to drive neo to do wat he wants him to do, and i dont no wat ur asking about the merovingian thing state that more clear and ill get back to u


Funny, I asked exactly how it is WORDED in the game Enter the Matrix:

KEYMAKER: But even he [the Merovingian] cannot keep me from playing my part in what will come.

Ok... how did he know this? is it really so hard to understand?

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ok ur fogetting alot of things here, the machines have artificial inteligence, they do wat they want, u really think that the agents are informed on the plans of the architecht, i dont think so. agent smith is more human now then machine plus if u noticed he is insane, u cant use him and his words from revolutions against me, and the keymaker is nesesary and its not to trick neo, its to trick everyone, in the matrix no one has choice, its all an illusion, the oracle has no choice she says u didnt come here to make the choice u already made it, u came here to understand y u made the choice, and she says we can never see past the choices we dont understand, so u see they dont have choice either, the illusion is choice they yes make choice but could they really have made the other choice no they have destiny, and the agents are the same, and wat r u getting at with that enter the matrix thing, how is that pertinent, of coarse the merv cant get in the way of the keymaker no one can u have destiny, and once he had no purpose u no wat happend to the keymake he died, just like neo, u do ur bit and u die, just like wat smith said in rev but that doesnt matter i just told u not to use wat he says in rev, in rev he is miniecle but neway, if u got aim it would be alot easier to talk heres my aim sn uranakensetsusha so talk to me here, its easier and faster, and stop being rude to me i could be wrong ok but so could u, and so could the w bros and even the mario bros lol thats off topic but u still didnt answer my q wat were u talkin bout wit the whole merv thing, and
you said this KEYMAKER: But even he [the Merovingian] cannot keep me from playing my part in what will come.

Ok... how did he know this? is it really so hard to understand?


he knows this because he understands his choices

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btw were did u get that transkript i wounldnt mind having one.

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NICE you show you understand the movie, but cant articulate it very well, but I undertsnad what you're saying. Smith is not insane... and machines and humans are the same they just have a different set of thinking, they understand love and karma better than humans. Neo finally understands his karma and lets smith win. No one new, nor knows the actual plan of the Architect agents do chase exiles... You're assuming Agents dont know what the architect knows yet we know he can't see past any choices. WELCOME we have another decent matrix fan here.

Nothing is explained everything is implied.

My link WWW on my profile has the small part a dialogue which I actually memorized after watching the movie 3 times LOL

here's the transcript though

zionmainframe.net...


any other thoughts on Smith?

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i think that smith is one of the most profound charecters in the matrix, yet also the hardest to understand, you said he is not insane, yes he isnt but i believe because of he ai and his link to neo his human emotions overpower him throughout the movie, as you see after he copied onto the oracle he let out a very evil laugh.

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After Smith took over the Oracle you have his sound (matrix code) like when trinity downloads that program to fly the helicopter... Smith is taking knowledge... then he sees the end and he wins makes his choices, but doesn't understand it. So he knows he is going to win.

Smith feels human feelings:
But he choses to reject them.
Characters like Rama-Chandra chose to accept them.
Rama-Kandra: Karma's a word. Like 'love.' A way of saying 'what I am here to do.' I do not resent my karma - I'm grateful for it. Grateful for my wonderful wife, for my beautiful daughter. They are gifts. And so I do what I must do to honour them.

The Matrix always explains things before they happen, like the Merovingian explaining what will happen to Neo when emotion will overide logic and reason.

Smith is not insane he's been saying DEATH is inevitable everything will END one day even the peace just created. Smith shows us everything as it really is... with no apologies Neo says you were right, you were always right.


At the end Sati was meant to be deleted, but now programs have that freedom they are not required to have a purpose, they're not ALL ENSLAVED to their purpose Smith was one to be freed by Neo.
Smith: "You see, he set me free"

So why continue our lifes if everything is meaningless:
Neo: "because we chose to"


In a way exliles can be more FREE than those in the machine world, but characters like Rama-Chandra show us you can find a CENTER and Neo does and so he fulfils his role as the one, and does what he must to honour Zion and Trinity, the story ends with the end of Neo and Smith.
The Matrix is a deep film, which shows in different angles the idea of being and becoming. I'll catch you later mate.

peace.

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Wow, this is all really interesting I'm sure, but you're in the wrong forum.

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I think that Smith is one of the most profound characters in the Matrix

He sure is, NOW do you understand why I love the character so damn much? Cool

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a connection to myths in revolutions FORUM was not made yet was it?

my apologies.

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personally i dont see how u can not like smith, he was the perfect casting to be the character and he is the perfect movie villian so to speak for the movie the matrix, the way he talks and everything is perfect, in fact i believe that all the casting for the matrix was perfect.

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OK man, everybody has their different take on the movie... i guess you make some sense, but your spelling is too damn frustrating... answer me these questions, since you seem to be one of the most enthusiastic posters...



1. Why are sunsets and sunrises so important? Why is the little girl so important? Weren't there sunrises and sunsets in the Matrix BEFORE that little girl existed? BEFORE Neo was awakened?

2. Why didn't the machines just build really tall solar power cells that poked through the clouds and then just killed all the humans inside the coccoons? Maybe the constant lightining would destroy them... and since they're all made of metal, then the surge of electricity might have traveled thru the whole city and killed all the machines? But I'm sure that lightining has hit the machines in 01 and other cities...

I had other questions but I forgot them... mostly having to do with the end of "Revolutions"... like wha happens now? Are some humans still in the coccoons? Where are the machines going to get their power from now? Anyways... I was thinking that how come the machines didn't just design an indestructable, unstoppable program to kill ALL trouble makers in the Matrix? Something like a bunch of B-52's loaded to the brim with nuclear weapons to kill the city they were all in?

Anyways... keep posting, man... oh... BTW, Seraph is some sort of angel...

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I was thinking that how come the machines didn't just design an indestructable, unstoppable program to kill ALL trouble makers in the Matrix?


They want the "troublemakers." Architect: The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program.

They analyze the One, and use what they learn when they rebuild the matrix.

And theoretically, no program can stop the One (as set up by the first movie).

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Go to "Why Matrix Answers All Questions" in this forum... you'll be much more pleased with the Movie...

Without making one connection, it is impossible to have liked the story of the movie.

There is one point the W brothers wanted you to get... that is why in interviews they say "People will be relieved because it answers a lot of questions..."

If you didn't make this one connection, no questions are answered...

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OK man, everybody has their different take on the movie... i guess you make some sense, but your spelling is too damn frustrating... answer me these questions, since you seem to be one of the most enthusiastic posters...



1. Why are sunsets and sunrises so important? Why is the little girl so important? Weren't there sunrises and sunsets in the Matrix BEFORE that little girl existed? BEFORE Neo was awakened?

2. Why didn't the machines just build really tall solar power cells that poked through the clouds and then just killed all the humans inside the coccoons? Maybe the constant lightining would destroy them... and since they're all made of metal, then the surge of electricity might have traveled thru the whole city and killed all the machines? But I'm sure that lightining has hit the machines in 01 and other cities...

I had other questions but I forgot them... mostly having to do with the end of "Revolutions"... like wha happens now? Are some humans still in the coccoons? Where are the machines going to get their power from now? Anyways... I was thinking that how come the machines didn't just design an indestructable, unstoppable program to kill ALL trouble makers in the Matrix? Something like a bunch of B-52's loaded to the brim with nuclear weapons to kill the city they were all in?

Anyways... keep posting, man... oh... BTW, Seraph is some sort of angel...

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ok first of all the sunrises, they themselves are not important at the least, but the girl had no purpose, she was a program that was not suppose to exist, at the end she then had a purpose she became the new writer of the sunsets as the oracle said in reloaded, you see those birds some program writes them or somin and bla bla bla a program is writen to make the sunsets the dawn and dusk bla bla bla, you see she is now the program that writes the sunsets so she now has a purpose how is the relevent to the movie at all, well smith said that without purpose we would not exist and she still existed didnt she, they thought that she wasnt suppose to but she was because she had a purpose, not a very important one considering the humans are now free from the matrix but the machines still stay inside because inside they experience human emotions and such and they like it just like the oracle said, "neo: why are you here?" oracle:"same reason, i love candy." you see she loves candy, that program that is the father of sati loves her, the machines do have emotions outside most likely but inside the matrix they can eat candy taste candy hear smell all that junk, some dont like it though like smit, "its the smell, if there is such a thing." next question, this one is a good question, well i think that they(if you dont understand this answer then watch the animatrix) somehow feel that they like humans, they want them to exist, after all it was us who struck first btw heres a mistake in matrix one morpheus said i dont no who struck first us or them but it was us who scorcthed the sky but in 2nd renesaince 1-2 you can clearly see that humans struck first because the machines were making all the profit and we were loosing money, ecinomically they started the war but we brought violence into it, but neway i think they like humans, they could easily of cleared the sky up i think, but in animatrix they wanted to join the united nations, after the war they signed themselves onto the united nations, i think they just wanted to be exepted by us and since they arnt they will keep us alive until we do basically, plus its another way to make energy, so its a win win for them, but thats just my opinion. last question no the humans are all released, how this waking up will affect them i dont no, i mean an old man all of the sudden waking up i think would have a heart attack but watever. and srry for the spelling again, oh and no ur accualy wrong sereph is not an angle, i dont no were u got that, but just because they use some religious principals in the matrix doesnt mean that a computer program is some how and angle, the difference in his coding was that he was the first program he saw that was not dirrectly connected to the machine maiframe or plugged into the matrix by the machines mainframe, im sure that the oracle looked the same way, they just didnt show it.

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hey, im not sure about this but i think that at the beggining of the matrix that wen trinity was at that laptop thats wen she was talkin to mr ash from the animatrix, wat do u think?

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White_Pawn, please use spellcheck and paragraphs.

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