»Out of Body and Persephone's Comments«

1 Thing I'd like to mention and 1 thing I'd like to comment on.

1 - At the end of Revolutions when they show Neo's body in the outline - I believe that is Neo looking at his body...think of it...every other time they show that view it's from Neo's perspective...so he must be dead and seeing his body. He's now out of body...but perhaps alive because he's seeing it?

2. Pertaining to this comment from the webmaster:
Persephone says about the Merovingian: "The Merovingian was once like Neo". Months of discussions followed. Was he a former One?
Effect on Revolutions? None. But why did she say it then?

Answer: she said it cause Merovingian used to LOVE her like Neo loves Trinity. That was the reference.

foochuck wrote:

1 - At the end of Revolutions when they show Neo's body in the outline - I believe that is Neo looking at his body...think of it...every other time they show that view it's from Neo's perspective...so he must be dead and seeing his body. He's now out of body...but perhaps alive because he's seeing it?.

I agree with you on this. In the following thread, I touched upon this very issue:

yeah, i think thats reading a bit too much into that statement

Does anybody else fine Persephone's lines funny? i mean shez got sum good ones, i havnt seen revolutions yet but i really want 2, im afraid 2 read the posts incase they tell me about the story line...

persephone definately has the most comical lines in the whole series. the merovingian had a few "wiping your ass with silk" "eyeyeyey, women, zey meess nothing" "damnit, woman, you will be the end of me!". but then again who can resist the comedy of a fueding couple?

"you can either stand there and die or go get my husband and tell him what i've done"

"...he's in the ladies room"-just after they all left the men's room

and your sig: "she wasn't kissing your face, my love"

LOL. im probly da only 1 dat didnt clock dat dey went thru the gents. i hold my head down in embarasment. i can remember it clearly now though. oh yea... i cant help feeling that the frenchman represents the jews of this world yes? no? by the way i have respect for the jews (the real ones).

"i mean shez got sum good ones"

She certainly does... And I hope you meant more then just her silly lines.

I think Merv was a program written to be like Neo, supposed to be the one but he didnt quite make it...love and loyalty is just not in his blood...perhaps coz him being french and ol

go to google and look up the frenchmans name (cant be asked 2 spell it). that is the name of some decentents of Jesus (who neo represents). jesus was a jew. the jews now run this planet (hollywood, playboy etc) but are not doing it in the name of God. they do it for their own selfish needs which is why the world is in the state its in. the bible talks of the return of jesus and the matrix is just modern prophesy. with the frenchmans name indicating he is from the lineage of Jesus and with him being the most powerfull program in the matrix but has decided to get selfish about it he can only represent the jews.

At this point, this thread should be deleted from the Matrix. You know too much, and the jews are going to come for you.

take the blue pill?

or open your eyes with the red pill

all im offering is the truth...

I dont FEAR them, DOUBT what the matrix is really about or DISBELIEVE the obvious truth.

FREE YOUR MIND! LOL

foochuck wrote:

1 - At the end of Revolutions when they show Neo's body in the outline - I believe that is Neo looking at his body...think of it...every other time they show that view it's from Neo's perspective

I can think of at least 2 different shots where they show the gold light, and it's not from Neo's perspective, because he's in the shot.

Furthermore, if Neo's consciousness was outside his body, why would the body be glowing like that?

Neo is dead.

are you sayin that Neo is not allowed to look at him self from outside of his body? if that the case then your throwing the whole 'Train man' scene in to question. i recall Neo saying that he had seperated his mind from his body which would make it possible. maybe i have over looked something, i dunno but Neo probably died physically but he didnt die spiritually. he returned to the source.

Deus Ex Machina: Neo is dead
Neo: Deus Ex Machina is dead.

Neo is dead, gone, his heart not beating any more. However, he returned to the source which he TOUCHED it sometime somewhere. Also recall the Architect asked him to go TO THE SOURCE (right door). Eventually, he disseminated to the source.

This may be a coincedence, but if it's not, despite Oracle's thoughts the Architect can see beyond of the choices. I mean, I think he already KNEW that he would go to the SOURCE either he CHOOSED the left door or the right door. But, choosing the right door in the first place (source door) would not be sufficient thus the architect mentioned about Trinity. He said she sacrificed her life to save yours, thus mentally forced Neo to choose the left door (zion and trin). This means, the Architect can see beyond of the choices because he UNDERSTANDS. Recall the last scene, when the Architect says to the Oracle something like she played a dangerous game. He sounded like he KNEW and UNDERSTOOD what was going on.

So, if I assume the Architect can see beyond of the choices, then Neo should be dead (phsyically). Though he will be back soon.

And the Jews must have taken your dictionary as part of their quest for world-domination, because you sure as hell can't spell!

It's amazing to me how a discussion on a movie can suddenly take a left-turn to the lie that the Jews run the world. I suppose that as part of their plot to control us, they have created the Matrix movies so that everyone can finally understand that they control us. Sort of like the idea that the Matrix (movie) was created by the Machines so that we would not really realize we're all living in the Matrix!

bentcursor wrote:

And the Jews must have taken your dictionary as part of their quest for world-domination, because you sure as hell can't spell! :

Look, my grammar has absolutely nothing to do with the topic so stop picking. dont take the piss because you dont agree with me. take the time to research and then when you have decided wetha or not im chattin shit (based on FACT as a pose to wot ur belief system allows) then we can reason on a logical level. infact, for your benefit type the following keywords in to google, im sure youll get some interesting reading. you live in a world you obviously know nothing about. i however spend most of my time digging deeper. most arent ready to be unplgged. you included. youd be surprised how little time there is left. then again, for all i know you probably either know more than you make out or you have something to do with an idiot named mirra. ps. i have absolute respect for jews that are actually jews. they are seriously wise people but dont argue with me without knowledge of the subject. thats stupid and childish.

KEYWORDS:
Jews (Rothschild)
Merovingian race + Jesus
Mind Control (Bio chips)
Fallen angels
synagogue of satan

that should be enough to either shut you up or have MI5 on my back. take as much of the information as you can handle or throw it all away in disbelief. makes no difference to me and i have nothing to hide and no reason to lie. you, however, make me suspicious.

i know the wachowskis are jews and i respect them highly for what they have done but dont speak of that which you have no knowledge. i take it these chat rooms are strictly for the disbelievers

THE TRUTH DOESNT STOP BEING THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE NOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR BELIEVE

Truth is not manufactured.
Racism is always racism.

Saying "Jews are running the world" is NOT racism. If someone pops up and says "generally" something bad about Jews, that's racism. For example, "I hate jews" is a racism sentence.

If "Jews are running this world" is racism, then so "Jewish girls are the most beautiful girls in this world" is.

Yeah but 555 implies that jews are selfish. This is an ignorant stereotype. Might as well say that all black people like fried chicken.

im black and im a vegitarian. i have no problem with jews. i am stating actual facts. its not my opinion. those who study will know what im talking about. black people have Generally become like savages. there are good black people like there are good jews but the media has latched on to their 'Gun culture' and 'booty shakin' and a lot of black people have mindlessly latched on to it partly as a result of media glamorizin. black people have been destroyed. slavery (physically and otherwise) is partly to blame but fact is fact. its not racism. if a white person was to say the same thing and make clear his (neutral) postion then it would still be fact and not racism and i would not be offended. Certain jews (THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF) are selfish and do control this world. certain jews are aware of this fact and know the dangers of speaking out but feel obliged to tell the truth about it (even if they do code it). you have a right to disagree, im not forcing you to accept it. its just that i also feel obliged to share what little knowledge i have aquired. is that so unfair? im confused

infact shut up. make a note of the keywords i have given, get some info from the site(s) of your choice then show me where i have got the wrong end of the stick and make a point of it. i dont want to make inaccurate statements about anyone. i want people to make my mistakes apparent to me so i can better myself. i share my knowledge with you so you can maybe shed light on a few suspicious things you may notice from time to time and maybe even enlighten me! im a peaceful person. i know why my words offend you but unfortuantely you do not, which is ironically the 'in the box' thinking that im trying to FREE YOUR MIND from. you hear "Jews" and you shout RACIST, RACIST without taking the context in to account. i sincerely hope you realise my words before its too late but the matrix is very real. ok, we are not trapped inside computers (i dont think ) but EVERYTHING in those films are symbolic for multiple aspects of our 'reality'. take it or leave it

555 wrote:

are you sayin that Neo is not allowed to look at him self from outside of his body?

Yes. That makes no sense.

555 wrote:

if that the case then your throwing the whole 'Train man' scene in to question. i recall Neo saying that he had seperated his mind from his body which would make it possible.

Those are totally different situations.