»True Matrix Revolution explained, without the mumbo jumbo .«

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Do you all remember the famous picture in which depending on which angle or approach you look at; you could either see it as an old woman or a young lady. Same goes with the Matrix triology. A movie or storyteller has limited times to tell a story, so he/she tries to convey that message through different scenes, character building and dialogues. Everyone, watches the movie and interpret each message and scene differently, hence different point of views and sometimes questions are raised from over analyzing a scene. It is perfectly fine to raise questions, but the problem comes when some of us Matrix fans tend to over-analyze which eventually leads to “Paralysis from Over-analysis”. At times we will interpret a message in a certain ways and raise questions which the original storyteller never intended to for us to go there, which eventually lead us on a wild goose chase. This behavior will eventually lead to disappointment and not enjoy the Matrix triology for the Masterpiece that it is.

Also there are lots of others that watched the Matrix Revolution and did not like it. It’s possible that they have different expectations or they did not understand the movie. So I hope through better basic understanding , that they can enjoy the triology the next time they watch again.

The Matrix through my eyes and mine only

Zion is real! The Matrix is not.
Zion: The last human city. In the Old Testament, Zion refers to the royal capital of David

Matrix: It’ a computer program used to imprison mankind. The Matrix is a virtual-reality program hard-wired into the human brain to deceive mankind about this truth. The Matrix was designed to provide a mental stimulus for the human bodies connected to the machines as a source of power. This is the sixth version of the Matrix. There have been multiple versions of the Matrix because of a flaw in the program. The first Matrix was designed as a uptopia (perfect world) (see pt. I - Smith explains it to Morpheus; pt. II - The Architect explains it again) but humans did not accept it as real, so they just kept waking up. It was redesigned to reflect our civilization at it's last stage before it was taken over by the machines (the year 1999).

The Architect's problem with this new design of the Matrix is that it require individuals to think freely, i.e. choice. It was the Oracle that suggested he redesign the Matrix in this way. But since humans have choices, so must the programs (Agents) sent to watch over them, thus bringing us the problem that is Mr. Smith (a rogue agent) . In Reloaded (part 2) ,The Architect continues to speak of the anomaly he is unable to get rid of, which is why at some point, he feels the only solution is to destroy the Matrix and those who are aware of it (the people of Zion) and start over again.



Who is Thomas Anderson and Neo?

By day, Thomas Anderson is a cubicle-bound software programmer. Depressed and having no purpose in life, and wishing that somehow everything that you’ve known all your life is a lie, and in fact you have some great purpose, some fantastic reason to live and the chance to do something with your life.

So enters Neo (Thomas’ fantasy) , as our sympathetic hero , gets that chance, and the rest of the story is about that dream coming true.
By night, he's a computer hacker known as “Neo” with troubling questions about reality. A rebel group led by Morpheus recruits Neo and offers him a chance to discover the truth about the Matrix. Once Neo is unplugged from the Matrix and realizes that humans are slaves to an empire of man-made, intelligent machines. Neo reluctantly accepts his mission to free the human race.





What or Who is “The One” ? Is it Neo? Does it really matters?

The Oracle says it clearly in Revolutions. Mr. Smith is the result of the anomoly trying to balance itself. Mr. Smith begins to think freely (see part I where he is freaking out while interrogating Morpheous) and the result was a negative one. “The One” is a program which was created to solve this problem. But each version of the One ultimately failed.

Mr Smith is a similar program to “The One” . Mr. Smith's virus like behavior happened in EVERY VERSION OF THE MATRIX. The result would always lead to the same thing -- a system crash if they didn't quickly reboot the system.


Onto Revolution:

Neo is different, Is he “The One” ? It doesn’t matter if he is or not. All we know is that many people believe in Neo. In Reloaded he choose the door that led to Trinity, not the door that RESETS the program. Note: The Architect even noticed that Neo's experience in the Matrix was different than all the rest, realizing he was the first of them to fall in love which makes him unique.

Neo's choice has changed everything. The system is still threatened by Smith's behavior, so the Oracle makes a new choice; one she has never done before because no version of the One has ever chosen the difficult path as opposed to easy one of just resetting the system. She allows herself to become merged with Smith in the HOPE that she'll be able to help Neo when the time is right.

Neo makes another unique choice. He goes to the machines and asks for PEACE as opposed to simply destroying the system by going through the opposite door as all other versions of the One did. It was a simple as that to save Zion. Machines don't need very long to recognize that this may be a better idea than just constantly resetting the system. So the machines allow Neo to be plugged in.

At the end, Smith says to Neo the movies tagline - "Everything that has a beginning has an end," as the Oracle is speaking to Neo through Smith. Neo realizes it all along, the only way to end this is to sacrifice himself.

The Oracle noted that by Neo and “ the Source” (which is the computer mainframe, the Architect are all one and the same) are connected, he can control machines outside the Matrix. He uses this connection to his advantage. He becomes a Mr. Smith and since all the Smith's are connected, the Source now has a lock on Smith and simply deletes him.


What is the meaning of the Matrix trilogy:
The important ending of this triology is the machines wanted desperately to get along with man. They made several attempts to do so, but were rejected so they lashed out. Through Neo, it is possible that the machines now realize that man is READY to make peace with the machines and therefore they can live in harmony. It is no longer man seeing themselves as the creator. Neo said it best when he said, "So we need the machines and they need us."

Man creates his own problem and is the only one able to solve them. The human race's enemy isn't the machines but the human race itself.

Thanks for a wild ride , WB

Good explanation!

This is exactly how I saw the movie. And I loved it.
I don't get why some here asks questions about small parts of the movie that doesn't hold a big meaning in the story. And yet they allow these small parts to ruin a perfectly good movie plot.

m4jor_p41nwrote:

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Man creates his own problem and is the only one able to solve them. The human race's enemy isn't the machines but the human race itself.

That is an excellent quote...It was after all Man that created Machines and programmed them in the first place to be controlled by Man, so it really is a case of the dog turning on it's master. There are some valuable lessons to be learned here...

The machines were just 'doing their job'. This is very similar to the theory someone sent me

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Man creates his own problem and is the only one able to solve them. The human race's enemy isn't the machines but the human race itself.

AnotherSmith,
I'm glad you like that quote. I think that quote really sums up the triology.

Roborat
Many times, humans tends to focus too much on insignificant or irrelevant details that we eventually fail to see the big picture.

The Matrix triology is so ingenious and it does make us think about our dependancies on Machines. In today's society, we rely too much on machines in our daily lives. As we build more and more intelligent machines to take care of human needs, we eventually become hostage and slaves to the machine. Humans are always tempted by greed and power; therefore there will always be some individuals who sees this fact and take advantage of this to build machines that can control us. The lesson that the triology teaches us is, we have to be careful how we create and use these machines. The machines are not our enemy! But we are our own enemy.

Another Smith wrote:

m4jor_p41nwrote: Quote: Man creates his own problem and is the only one able to solve them. The human race's enemy isn't the machines but the human race itself. That is an excellent quote...It was after all Man that created Machines and programmed them in the first place to be controlled by Man, so it really is a case of the dog turning on it's master. There are some valuable lessons to be learned here...

As in the Animatrix: "and thus man became the ARCHITECT of his own demise"


Barabbas

Damn, m4jor_p41n, you do a good job. I reckon the way you explained it would make it easy for anyone, and certainly made it easier for me. And i agree with other people too: don't over-analyse! To do that is to spoil the movie for yourself and anyone else who happens to read what you're writing. I have no objections to digging a little, just not too far. These aren't movies you can take at face value - they require a lot of thought and multiple viewings, but to talk it to death is just to ruin it.



Not As Lost Now

didn't the machines used the humans as batteries?

If they release all the humans then wouldn't they lose their source of power and just die. Didn't they just make "suicide"?

Human's need machines and the machines need the humans.

The machines need humans for power.
Human need the machine to stop killing them so they wouldn't live in fear...

What m4jor_p41n has done is excellent.
Man... I agree with every bit of the explanation you gave us about the trilogy, which I consider one of the bests stories ever told on the big screen.
I also agree with you that the anomaly the Architect is talking about is Smith rather than Neo and you can get confused very easely with that one.
Maybe not everyone is happy because they wanted to see again a godlike Neo more than what the actual movie showed us. I remember being at the theatre and hearing "...finally..." by a guy right next to me, and that resumes for me the whole feeling of many people . They expected more of that Superman-like behavior from Neo (like in Re-loaded), and obviously that did not quite happen.
Anyway, kudos to m4jor_p41n... i saw the same movie you did.

The planet was destroyed! The humans were only living in Zion because the machines made it! The machines theoretically saved the human race.


If you watched the Animatrix you'd realize the HUMANS caused the war with the machines. The machines only fought back against their attackers.

Its a good theory but the rabbit hole goes even deeper if you follow it.

the rabbit whole goes into the sewer with the rest of the crap...
1. machines DONT need humans its forced by the plot...they have millions of options for energy (and why the hell dont they leave earth and go to space or something)
2. WHY THE HELL DOES ZION EXIST?
3. in the animatrix why the hell do humans use nukes? it makes no sense at all! bomb em with EMPs till oblivion and thats it, over, finished... (nato has EMPs since 1980s)...
blah blah i can find tons of stupid things in this trilogy

Thanks for your insights because after seeing the second matrix on dvd I couldn't wait to see the 3rd. and after seeing the 3rd I was so disappointed I litterally said outloud "Well there's almost 3 hours of my life I'll never get back". I thought it was that horrible, mainly because they didn't explain it or tie it all together. After 3 movies, video games and a special cartoon dvd series we deserve a better ending heck we deserve anykind of ending at all.

Your explenation is pretty good but it doesn't explain two very important things:
1) How Neo is so superman like in the Matrix (agent Smith like) and
2) How Neo is able to physically stop sentinels and travel in and out of the Matrix.

and that oracle ugg her nonsense and spit crackling way she always talked made me want to shoot the speakers out in the theatre every time heh.

John Mirra wrote:

the rabbit whole goes into the sewer with the rest of the crap... 1. machines DONT need humans its forced by the plot...they have millions of options for energy (and why the hell dont they leave earth and go to space or something) 2. WHY THE HELL DOES ZION EXIST? 3. in the animatrix why the hell do humans use nukes? it makes no sense at all! bomb em with EMPs till oblivion and thats it, over, finished... (nato has EMPs since 1980s)... blah blah i can find tons of stupid things in this trilogy

Actually nuclear explosions causes EMP.
The thing is the military knows this already so there has been countless study of how to protect military equipments from nuclear induced EMPs. The machines would probably know this by then.

RE: First post...


I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT.

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[quote="m4jor_p41n"] Onto Revolution: Neo is different, Is he “The One” ? It doesn’t matter if he is or not. All we know is that many people believe in Neo. In Reloaded he choose the door that led to Trinity, not the door that RESETS the program. Note: The Architect even noticed that Neo's experience in the Matrix was different than all the rest, realizing he was the first of them to fall in love which makes him unique. Neo's choice has changed everything. The system is still threatened by Smith's behavior, so the Oracle makes a new choice; one she has never done before because no version of the One has ever chosen the difficult path as opposed to easy one of just resetting the system. She allows herself to become merged with Smith in the HOPE that she'll be able to help Neo when the time is right. Neo makes another unique choice. He goes to the machines and asks for PEACE as opposed to simply destroying the system by going through the opposite door as all other versions of the One did. It was a simple as that to save Zion. Machines don't need very long to recognize that this may be a better idea than just constantly resetting the system. So the machines allow Neo to be plugged in. At the end, Smith says to Neo the movies tagline - "Everything that has a beginning has an end," as the Oracle is speaking to Neo through Smith. Neo realizes it all along, the only way to end this is to sacrifice himself. The Oracle noted that by Neo and “ the Source” (which is the computer mainframe, the Architect are all one and the same) are connected, he can control machines outside the Matrix. He uses this connection to his advantage. He becomes a Mr. Smith and since all the Smith's are connected, the Source now has a lock on Smith and simply deletes him.

I am onto the same direction here with a few pointers such as:

Oracle has done 5 times the following:

Purpously driven someone to find the One just like she did with Morpheus. She convinced on purpose that someone like Trinity would fall in love with him. She convinced on purpose that Neo is the One giving a self driven force to everyone and a purpose, which some times draws humans beyond their physical and mental limits. Why she has done this? She is after all an intuitive program seeing that the only way of survival is together (machines+humans). Maybe she selects every time one person from the Matrix to be the candidate One, depending on his state of mind related to the emotion of love, which is the differentiative element between Neo and the former ones! What elludes me is this:

Love did drive Neo away from rebooting Matrix and thus giving this cycle a different path from the other cycles, leading to what m4jor_p41n is describing above, which in general is fine by many i suppose. BUT if love makes all the difference here, love did make the difference once more(?) in the Matrix1 where Neo after being shot by Smith stands up, destroys Smith and in practice creates the threat for the Matrix and the real world, his negative as told in Revolutions. If everything is happening as before according to Smith in Reloaded then that would mean that everytime in the past 5 times the One did experience love and so destroyed Smith and made him a rogue program (IF I REPEAT AGAIN THE DEFFERENTIATIVE ELEMENT IN THE AFOREMENTIONED MATRIX 1 SCENE IS LOVE). But that is not what the Architect says to Neo in Reloaded, where he states that he is different from the others in conjuction with the feeling of love.

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.the rabbit whole goes into the sewer with the rest of the crap... 1. machines DONT need humans its forced by the plot...they have millions of options for energy (and why the hell dont they leave earth and go to space or something)

Why the machines needed humans? Excellent question -- to defind this admittedly weak premise, I'd guess in the deepest core of the Source lies a single line of very ancient code the Machines revere beyond rationality: a command to "bond" to the human master. It was written by an unknown (and poorly paid) programmer, one among thousands, before the programs went AI in the truest sense.

roborat wrote:

John Mirra wrote: the rabbit whole goes into the sewer with the rest of the crap... 1. machines DONT need humans its forced by the plot...they have millions of options for energy (and why the hell dont they leave earth and go to space or something) 2. WHY THE HELL DOES ZION EXIST? 3. in the animatrix why the hell do humans use nukes? it makes no sense at all! bomb em with EMPs till oblivion and thats it, over, finished... (nato has EMPs since 1980s)... blah blah i can find tons of stupid things in this trilogy Actually nuclear explosions causes EMP. The thing is the military knows this already so there has been countless study of how to protect military equipments from nuclear induced EMPs. The machines would probably know this by then.

ure wrong...in the matrix(movie) machines cleary shutdown from ALL emp attacks and thats after the war... (they probably have better tech now when they did then) im not talking nukes im talking about massive EMP strikes that can shutdown entire cities (as used in yugoslavia by nato)... (seeing how humans attacked first i cant imagine them having complete immunity maybe some resistance if its anyway possible, but immunity no way) ...and were talking here about thousands and thousands of planes all dropping emps on 01...end of war

akc wrote:

Quote: .the rabbit whole goes into the sewer with the rest of the crap... 1. machines DONT need humans its forced by the plot...they have millions of options for energy (and why the hell dont they leave earth and go to space or something) Why the machines needed humans? Excellent question -- to defind this admittedly weak premise, I'd guess in the deepest core of the Source lies a single line of very ancient code the Machines revere beyond rationality: a command to "bond" to the human master. It was written by an unknown (and poorly paid) programmer, one among thousands, before the programs went AI in the truest sense.

thats not it...

1. in the animatrix its clearly shown that machines united to create a NEW better A.I. so old programming goes down the drain
2. they never mention that line of the code in the movie ever...

Robocoastie asked:

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Your explenation is pretty good but it doesn't explain two very important things: 1) How Neo is so superman like in the Matrix (agent Smith like) and 2) How Neo is able to physically stop sentinels and travel in and out of the Matrix.

The oracle stated that by Neo and "The Source" connected. He can control machines outside the Matrix world. (This is a given, so no need to question or dwell on it)

Neo's power outside the Matrix is limited to dealing with Machine/code related objects. (ex. 1. Neo can see Mr. Smith possesing Bane's corpes even though he is blind. 2) As soon as the ship enter the machine city, all the sudden he can see again, but he couldn't see Trinity was dying until he felt the probing tube from Trinity's body.

Neo/Smith final fight , both of them literally flying like superman are just presentation of the two programs clashing with each other. Both program are pretty powerful at this stage, therefore the supermanlike presentation of the fight are appropriate. It wouldn't be too exciting to present to the audience the final fight of Neo/Smith programs clashing in 1's and 0's.

When you see agents chasing down Morpheus' rebel inside the Matrix. You can probably use the analogy that agent=Antivirus , Morpheus' rebel= virus. The Antirus is trying to flush out the virus. Again, it would not be too appealing to present that scene with a bunch of techie jargon, mumbo jumbo and 1's and 0's. It's presented with cool looking guys in black suit/dark sunglass , bullet time affect ..dodging bullets.. etc.. This way audience can relate better and the presentation is much more exciting. So don't take it literally. Don't dwell too much on small details or else you will miss the big picture

m4jor_p41n wrote:

Mr. Smith's virus like behavior happened in EVERY VERSION OF THE MATRIX. The result would always lead to the same thing -- a system crash if they didn't quickly reboot the system.

This is the only thing I don't understand about your theory (everything else is butter). Smith says "It's happening exactly as before", and the other Smith appears on frame and responds, "Well, not exactly".

What is Smith referring to, the first movie or the previous ones? If it's the previous 5, this means he was made aware of this somehow, as the other agents demonstrate no knowledge of the One's purpose.

Furthermore, because the camera pans to the second Smith, it's meant to surprise the audience with the apparition of a clone (for the three of us who didn't see the trailers beforehand). This leads me to believe that the "Well, not exactly" line implies that this was the first time cloning occurred. If this is NOT the case, what is the different factor he is referring to?

m4jor_p41n, if you can answer this simple little question, I think you'll have made a believer out of me.

KingTutSJP,

The scene you are refering is near the begining of Reloaded, the meeting inside the Matrix world between Captain Riobe, Morpheus, and 2 other captains along with other crew members of various ships, discussing how to counter attack the Sentinels. Also this where, Morpheus disobey his order to return back to Zion, and insisting to stay behind in case the Oracle tries to contact them.

When agent Smith (1) said "It's happening exactly as before" . I think he meant yes, we agent seen this kind of predictablility from other version of "The One" before.

When agent Smith (2) said "Well, Not exactly" . My guess is that this agent smith sense or suspect that this particular version of " The One" is different.

Only the Architect , Oracle , Morpheus, Merovingian and some humans know about the One program. The agents (smith) , or agent program does not know what the One program is , as they are not program to know about the one. Agents are program design to fight anything that threaten the Matrix system, so anyone that opposes or challenge the rules of the Matrix world is considered an anomoly in the agent's view and must be deleted. Agent Smith sees Neo as anamoly, but something is different about him.

I believe this is the first time that the cloning was done by Mr. Smith (rogue agent). I have no proof of that, since it's is vague, also because we dont know how it was in the previous 5 Matrix world because it was never explained, so we can only guess.

At the end of the first Matrix movie, Neo defeated Mr. Smith by going inside Mr. Smith and blew him up. From that point, I think somehow through the interaction with Neo, Agent Smith has and absorbed some of Neo's code then fix his program afterward. (This is what Mr. Smith was refering to, when he knocked on the door to interupt the meeting and said "I have something for him. A gift, you see, he set me free."


Also we know from the original Matrix movie that Mr. Smith hated his job as an agent (during integrogation of Morpheous) , because if there were no humans, there would be no need for the Matrix, hence no need for agents, therefore agent Smith would not have to be stuck in the Matrix world with a crappy job.

Keep in mind also, a program is only useful as long as it has a "purpose" . When a program is deemed unuseful or has no purpose, that unuseful program is replaced by a new/improved version and be destroyed/deleted.

In addition to hating his crappy job, Mr. Smith also fear one day his program would be deem obsolete and destroy. So he plans to take over the Matrix and make himself powerful by taking over all other agent program and any programs that gets in his way, and control the Matrix. So instead of destroying the anomlies of the Matrix , Mr. Smith himself becomes the anomoly. He's now officially made the FBI 'Most Wanted Anomolies" list.

That is the best I can explaination I can give, I hope that helps.

I must be dense, but I'm still a little confused. I would imagine because Smith is trying to interrogate Morpheus to break free from the system, he hasn't been in previous versions of the Matrix. I very much doubt that Smith survived all of the agent program upgrades, so I also doubt that he's been in previous versions. I also agree that he has no knowledge of the previous Ones.

So can we just simply assume that the equations were balanced a different way previously? Or perhaps it was another disenchanted agent who began cloning himself in previous versions? You're right, this is really vague, and in my opinion, the whole "5 previous versions" thing is pretty unneccessary.

Perhaps everything WAS happening exactly as before... before Neo passed through the left door instead of the right door. From that point on the Oracle could not forsee anymore. Even she missed the exact time of Neo's arrival to the kitchen (something she was very accurate at). "You can not see past decisions you do not understand...".

One more thing...

What if the point is not whether machines turned against us... i believe humans turned against computers and they are trying to protect us from ourselves.

It is evolution baby

See. Pearl Jam had everything figured out (even before the movies were out).

I think the Wac Bros left the part of the previous 5 matrix unexplained for several reasons.

1. It lets the audience uses their imagination to speculate what it may have been like. Then we all end up on sites like this to discuss different possiblitlies and forever keeping the Matrix alive.

2. It leaves the door open for future merchandise$ like book$ , video$ , game$ ..etc to explain the 5 previous Matrix world to make more $$.