»What part of human bodies do they use as energy source?«

Maybe i'm a complete idiot for asking this (if I am, sorry ) But if the machines are using humans as an enery source, which part do they use?

:: They cannot 'eat' the mind, because "the body cannot live without the mind".

:: The cannot use the body, because the mind would not survive

Humans produce enough energy to run a lighting bulb. All the nerves inside you run with electric power and if you just use this power you have your own little power plant

So, all the machines are trying to do is survive? After all, it was the humans who created them.. and the humans ruined their own world..The machines even gave the people an alternative reality to live in..

It makes me ask the question, who are the good and bad guys in this?

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It makes me ask the question, who are the good and bad guys in this?

We have first to identify the criteria to distinguish good from bad.

And since the idea (bodies=batteries) is quite impossible:

knnknn wrote:

[...]it is safe to say that most probably it will turn out, that the bodies are not batteries.

Or the Wachowskies made a mistake

knnknn wrote:

And since the idea (bodies=batteries) is quite impossible

so is fusion as a viable power source. why not first complain about that? if they have created a workable fusion power source we already can't understand how it would work. how then could we pass judgement on what the fusion reaction needs to get going and stay going?

"Fusion" is another story, because Morpheus could mean "human-machine" fusion

knnknn wrote:

And since the idea (bodies=batteries) is quite impossible:

Well, Artificial Intelligence is supposed to be "impossible" as well, but come on. This IS a science fiction movie after all, some allowances have to be made.

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This IS a science fiction movie after all, some allowances have to be made.

No.

The reason for the Matrix should not be impossible.
The reason for how trinity gets into her clothes should be impossible.

But I am starting to realize that the W. Bros. doesn't give a shit about reality.

In the beginning I thought they would make a story without plot-holes. But now I see that the plot-holes have always been explained in Larry and Andy's heads as "It's just a movie".

So sad.

emp wrote:

But I am starting to realize that the W. Bros. doesn't give a shit about reality. In the beginning I thought they would make a story without plot-holes. But now I see that the plot-holes have always been explained in Larry and Andy's heads as "It's just a movie". So sad.

i have to let you in on a little secret. i wouldn't call them "plot-holes" as much as i'd call them Pot-holes if you catch my meaning. you see i'm actually the other Watchowski brother, Jaun. as a family we Fry-up all the time. and when you're stoned, it's hard to connect all the loose ends.
but in their defense, any story that has as much depth and blends so many different ideas on philosophy and technology and cool ways to shoot mac10's will have to have some short-comings.
how many POT-HOLES are you talking about, anyway?

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how many POT-HOLES are you talking about, anyway?

First of all, you're preaching to God now. I have never seen the movies without being stoned, so I understaaaaaaand them.

The p(l)ot holes are filled with kung-fu. Everbody know that a stoner never fights. So a pot-head would never fall into a pot-hole, even to search for pot in the oracles back yard.

The only real plot hole I am talking about is the batteries-thingy. And this plot hole was there in the first movie, so obviously they didn't think about it. They didn't know there would be more movies, so we were supposed to accept it as a fact.

I have to say I didn't believe that stuff for a minute about using people as batteries, they could of build generators and killed all the humans

matrix is not the most thought out film...no offence...

An idea as to the feasibility of the Matrix and Humans as batteries...


Distributed computing is a science which solves a large problem by giving small parts of the problem to many computers to solve and then combining the solutions for the parts into a solution for the problem. Recent distributed computing projects have been designed to use the computers of hundreds of thousands of volunteers all over the world, via the Internet, to look for extra-terrestrial radio signals, to look for prime numbers so large that they have more than ten million digits, and to find more effective drugs to fight the AIDS virus. These projects are so large, and require so much computing power to solve, that they would be impossible for any one computer or person to solve in a reasonable amount of time.


Substitute "Computers" with "Humans", and voila, it answers the question of "Why humans, and not cows?" The Matrix is a neural network, connecting billions of humans in a perceptual halucination of a "real world". The energy requirements of these humans (food), is offset by the electrical/kinesthetic energy produced by the pod encased humans...but ovbiously the expendature of energy (despite the "fusion" described by Morpheus) would not suffice to power the machine world. So, getting power from pods makes sense, in a minimalist way, but the "true" reason humans are being bred and enslaved/networked is the combined processing power of all those brains.

Could cow brains suffice? Most likely, but cows don't buy movie tickets, nu?