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Kiefer

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Hey, I was watching the second matrix today and I was sort of not paying attention then neo and the oracle were talking about a fall. This was the scene right before the huge fight with all the smiths. I've seen this "fall" reference used many times in books like "The Catcher in the Rye". I think it has something to do with the fall from inexperience to experience. Any thoughts on the "fall"?

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Neo: Are you saying I have to choose whether Trinity lives or dies?
Oracle: No. You've already made the choice, now you have to understand it.
Neo: No, I can't do that. I won't.
Oracle: You have to.
Neo: Why?
Oracle: Because you're The One.
Neo: What if I can't? What happens if I fail?
Oracle: Then Zion will fall.

If that's what you mean, there's not much complication to it. An objective and a consequence if he fails to accomplish it.

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the quote im talking about is the one where he says something about going through a door and its light then there is a fall or something.

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Ahh... He's talking about his dream. He see's Trinity fall from the building, as it shows in beginning of the movie.

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Well Neo is sort of a Satanic figure. I think his metamorphosis from Thomas Anderson to Neo could be interpreted as a "fall" of sorts, like how Satan fell from heaven - he was expelled for challening God (i.e. the Architect).

The Matrix is a system, Neo.

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