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[Matrix 1] Trinity: "No one has ever done anything like this." Neo: "That's why it's going to work."
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Gigadafud
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The Last Exile
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Hey, my first post!
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Location: Michigan
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ok this is my first post here. i have been lurking in the shadows this morning and i have been reading what others have had to say. you guys have picked up on alot of stuff here, a few things i did not think about too. my question i have has not been asked already. its about sati(sp) the last exile.
in the train station where smith refers to her as the last exile. this is probably one of the biggest questions i have left about the movie. her 'parents' were taking her to the matrix, where the oracle was going to look over her, but her parents were not coming, just taking her there and going back. now the part that intrigues me the most is that where her dad says they are taking her cause where they are from, you have to have a purpose or you are destroyed.
so we know that sati does not have a purpose, which is weird i think. both her parents have a purpose but she does not? so does that maybe make her older than her parents and maybe from a previous matrix, like the very first one where it was a perfect society. i guess that would maybe make sense, kinda goes hand in hand with the perfect sunrise at the end.
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okclave
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I have just started to post
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thi is a stupid question about the subject, but... how can programs have a daughter? i'm not joking, is a serious question.
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magicman94
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Sati is the last child born
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Bleeding newbie poster
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I had a thought that Sati was the last born child in the end times. Since she is a program, she would not have a soul. That made me think of the movie The Seventh Sign where they talk about the last child not having a soul. I was looking for backup in Revelations (since that is what the movie is obviously named for - The battle of Armegeddon and Smith the Anti-Christ) but I couldn't find where it talks about this. I think there is some basis in the Kabbalah, and I know the brothers have taken some of their philosophy from there, but I don't know. I do know that Sati is from the Hindu religion and refers to a pure woman. The tradition is that a Sati is a widow who burns herself to death on her husband's funeral pyre and is believed to go straight to heaven. Her father Rama-Kandra represents Lord Ramachandra from the Hindu religion. He is the seventh incarnation of Lord Vishnu, and came to earth to destroy the forces of evil. He is considered the perfect man by the Hindu people. Among other things, he starts a great war to defend his wife. Kamala, Sati's mother, probably represents Kamala Das, a Hindu poet. She wrote very openly about love, sex, and politics. Her greatest supporter was her husband. She also believed that you must live life to the fullest because she did not believe in reincarnation. Any thoughts about Sati being the last child before the end? Is that why she is the last exile? Does anyone know any Biblical basis for that?
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magicman94
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How can programs have a daughter
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Bleeding newbie poster
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Rama-Kandra explains to Neo that his wife Kamala is a very creative programmer. He stresses it so much that it indicates he is saying that she wrote Sati. It is at the same time that he is talking about how much he loves his daughter.
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Silvercat
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Sati as a new hope for all
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Location: The Matrix
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Sati is a powerful force for good in the future relations between man and machine. She is freeto choose her own path and is much more human than the standard machine programme. She was simply made to explore and learn rather than made to kill or made to perform some function in the war for machine survival.
The next potential revolution is when these free machines change the way the machine race thinks, in favour of a new type of tolerance and kindness.
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bachgal
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Sati makes the rainbow
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Sati makes the rainbow. She is an artist. An artist creates art through love without having a purpose. She is not a soldier. A soldier has a purpose to seek out and destroy.
During the peacetime perhaps the inhabitants of Zion will learn to create art, music, poetry and literature. If you look in Hamann's office there are some worm eaten books in a glass case. Wherever you see books they are old. Well I suppose it would be hard to print a new book without the trees for the paper, but an author could write an e-book. The weapons could be fashioned into tools for carving and sculpting. The crystals of the temple could be fashioned into jewelry. Things could be made more beautiful. Perhaps the inhabitants could learn more about the source and worship rather than rave at the Temple.
Zion could use a few farmers. All I saw were some fungus in the Zion Archives "bai mohr" is what they are called in Chinese and they are tasty. The other food stuff I saw was a sort of faucet which I guess metes out Tastee Wheat cereal.
Maybe some scientific sorts would figure out how to emerge from Zion to live on the surface away from the nuclear glowing Machine City. Maybe the sewers once lead to rivers which lead to oceans. Maybe the Zionists could become Atlanteans.
In the final fight in the rain, when Agent Smith is fighting Neo, the background music is actually an Indian (Sanskrit) shloka taken from the bhagvad gita.
-"Asato ma sadgamaya
tamaso ma jyotirgamaya
mrityor ma mritam gamaya
om shanti shanti shanti"
It means:
"Oh Lord take me from evil toward good, from darkness toward light, from death toward immortality. Oh Lord I hope the world around me remains in peace."
I suspect that some of the people in Zion will still be suspicious of the machines and will be paranoid about another attack. Those people will be obsessed with security and weapons proliferation. They will be uneasy about the peace with the machines.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
1803-1882; US transcendentalist writer, minister & activist
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rufo
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Meaning of "the last exile"
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Hey, my first post!
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Smith calls Sati “the last exile” just before he assimilates her. I think he means that she is the last program to come to the Matrix before he destroys the Matrix, which he thinks he is about to do. The name does not, in my opinion, have any profound meaning. (Other programs that have moved to the Matrix are also referred to as exiles, such as the Keymaker.)
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