»Neo is a program, Zion is not«

i have a thought about neo, i think that neo is half machine and half human
M1-"He's some machine"

I think that he was made as a machine in the real world and then was put in to the pod to be inserted into the matrix. He doesnt no it, until the end of the movie when he can feel the machines and he used a self induced emp, which is why it also knocks him out.

Neo is a program. He is the beginning and the end. Remember the Oracle stating that you "is it only what you want to hear" Neo knows what is going to happen. He is going to be the end of ZION, but this time he thinks he can change the future. He denied the Architect when he saved Trinity's life and made the future change. Neo knows that Zion will die, because of his actions and what he will see in the future (third movie).

He believes that he can fight the machines by himself and change the future. The rabbit hole and the door were a path given to NEO to follow; now in the third movie NEO will walk his own path and become the leader.

Also the chancellor knows more then anyone else in the community of Zion. The Chancellor knows that Zion is destined to fall again and the only way to protect his people's way of life is to play the story over and over. In other words the chancellor was one of the original people put into the newest Zion. But the chancellor believes that there is hope. In the third movie NEO will have to prove he is ready for the challenge of changing the future.

Zion is not a program, and yes there are people in Zion that know the truth. Zion is a place for the people to live that know the matrix is not real. The only true way for the humans beat back the robots is through Zion and the destruction of the matrix. But the robots numbers are very great. Neo will learn in the third movie that the way to fight the machines is through the matrix. Neo will try to rescue all of the people and his allies inside both worlds. There are good machines and good humans, and there are bad machines and bad humans. The war will take place on both fronts. The Matrix cannot be destroyed because Neo has allies inside the matrix

At the point where Neo meets with the Architect, matrix-explained.com states that:
"However I believe the TVs do not represent previous 'Ones', because of these facts mainly"

And the fact that the TV's can show all the possibilities this fast suggest (To me) that Neo in fact is a program (Think that he's like a 3D model in a program), because The Matrix can simulate him so accurate. (Voice, appearence and so on) I dont know whether you already said that somewhere, I just didnt notice and wanted to make sure you thought about it...

The Architect is looking for the One to achieve his seventh order of perfection. His perfect One will have the genetic/programming code to allow the denizens of the Matrix never be able to question the order of Machine over Man.

But, just like Paul Atreides did in Dune, he shows up sooner and with more than the Bene Gesserit had planned for in their Messiah. He couldn't be controlled by them. So, too, will Neo. After gaining his code, the Man in the Matrix will not question it because he will become the Matrix. The Children of Zion, who were born free, could not achieve that level of perfection since they had not been of the Matrix and would not be able to receive Neo's code. And, thus, they were sacrificed. Bane, actually could evolve since he has some of Neo's code, albeit in a corrupted format.

Agent Smith has achieved some level of evolution after acquiring some of Neo's code. This is a wrinkle that may be the undoing of the Architect. But, he's still imperfect since he is incapable of love. Neo, Trinity and the Seraph will be the ones to guide the world into the new unified order of the Third Renaissance.

Some people think that Neo is a machine and that's why he can trigger an EMP and also be susceptible to it, but that is proven wrong in M1, where at the end of the movie, Morpheus triggers the EMP right after NEO comes back from the Matrix. After the EMP was discharged, the sentinels went down, but Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus were all fine. That would rule them out as machines. As to how Bane triggered the EMP, well, I think it's silly that most people think he created it like Neo did, but has anybody thought that maybe he just used the ship's EMP? Incidentally, even though Neo may not be a machine, but it doesn't rule him out as being a program. I think people need to understand the difference between programs and machines. Machines exist in the real world. Programs exist in software. So if Zion ("real world") is not real but is a simulation, then Neo can still be anything. But if Zion is real, then Neo cannot be a machine (see previous argument) which would leave Neo's powers unexplained.

cochen wrote:

Some people think that Neo is a machine and that's why he can trigger an EMP and also be susceptible to it, but that is proven wrong in M1, where at the end of the movie, Morpheus triggers the EMP right after NEO comes back from the Matrix. After the EMP was discharged, the sentinels went down, but Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus were all fine.

It could mean that at that time, certain cyborg features have been inactive (and protectively shielded) inside Neo's body. After his return from the Architect the circuit have been activated and thus he is prone to EMP.

Don't tell me you've gotten hooked on the far-out-cyborg theory?

Have you asked WHY the circuits would be activated after visiting the architect? There is absolutely nothing in the dialogue to support it...

Also, it makes a lot of sense that Neo is the quintessential representation of mankind. He is pi. Incalculable. Undefinable. A mind net set with mathematical limits. The refined essence of what makes us human. Rebellious, making "selfish" decisions, etc. His powers make him super-man. Not cyborg.

emp wrote:

Don't tell me you've gotten hooked on the far-out-cyborg theory? Have you asked WHY the circuits would be activated after visiting the architect? There is absolutely nothing in the dialogue to support it...

Yep, I come with empty hands. It's just a theory that would explain, why Neo can suddenly feel the sentinels and breaks down due to electro overload. Maybe it has something to do with Smith, since Bane is also unconscious and Smith had the power to "deploy the sentinels" [Matrix 1].

One of the best things about Reloaded is that it leaves many things to our imagination. I agree that at this point, we really cannot say hands down what the W-Bros were thinking, but what we're trying to do is make a good guess. So even though many theories are 'possible', some are more 'probable' than others. So to say that Neo's a cyborg and that his machine side was activated after visiting the Architect, while it is a possible theory, it seems a little too contrived to be a probable theory. What I like about this website is that it offers many 'probable' theories while acknowledging but screening out the less probable ones. Let's keep going in that direction.

The second best thing about Reloaded is the Samurai Sword swinging served up by a suped-up Sandman, aka Morpheus. Did he just download EVERY weapon trainer just in case, or what? He is eccentric for sure. Damn Morpheus, you ain't never gonna change.