»What does the sunrise signify?«

A lot of people have been saying that they feel the ending was a victory for the machines, that along with a Matrix reboot, they would continue the process of using humans as their power source. This seems the most logical ending, but why the colorful (and overdone) scenery at the end?

The Wachowskis were careful throughout the entire trilogy to depict the Matrix as a prison, and thus the skies were always gray/green, and everyone within it wore very bland colors (black, gray, etc.) The ending brightly contrasts with this imagery, and that could only signify some sort of victory for the humans.

In the Second Renaissance, we see the machines fight an entire war without their "primary power source", the sun. This is before the creation of the Matrix. The Wachowskis obviously knew their idea of human enslavement for power was absurd (solar panels would maybe be more cost effective), so with the creation of the sequels, they had to show that they didn't need the Matrix. Thus, the peace.

But I don't understand everything entirely. The whole purpose of the little Indian girl, whatever her name was is lost on me (the last exile? huh?). Furthermore, EVERY PROGRAM IS MEANT TO HAVE A PURPOSE. If they serve no purpose, they are deleted. What then, are the Oracle and Architect still doing inside this newly-constructed picture-perfect world if there are no humans? The machines surely wouldn't keep the Matrix around if they didn't derive any poewr from it.

Not only that, but the Matrix Online takes place after Revolutions and within the Matrix...

So I ask the question again, why the sunrise? The last exile created it, and the only thing she ever talked about in the movie was seeing Neo and the Oracle again. Someone please tell me what the hell is going on.

I think the Sunrise ment a new Begging, a diffrent path than was tooken before....

The dawning of a new era...duh..

It also gave that little girl a purpose.

Sati also symbolizes rebirth.

The next generation of machines are freeborn, born out of love. These machines will be far more human friendly and thus are the true inheritors of the matrix. Thus, Sati and her ilk will live with humans and will reforge all the damage done between the two races, making the matrix a cultural meeting point where the two races can exchange ideas freely.

I call that a victory indeed, for both sides and for love and innocence.

it signifies a new beggining

As you may know after the big flood (where god murdered millions of peaceful inhabitants of this planet) god created the first rainbow as a sign of a new beginning/peace.

Flood (Bible) -> Rain (Smith)
Rainbow (Bible) -> Color sky (Matrix)

Since the matrix is just a creation on the Architect's screens it means that for the first time a color-adjusted colorTV has been made.

I agree that the sunrise symbolises a new beginning, but not the end of the matrix cycles. The Oracle and the Architect talk at the end about seeing how long this arrangement is going to last (thus the reason that they still exist and have purpose is because, it will eventually start over again).

There's a heavy Gnostic theme throughout the entire trilogy in that the human beings are trapped in this matrix by the machines just like human souls are trapped in this material world by evil gods in Gnosticism. In the Gnostic religion, self-knowledge is the key to escaping from this prison of a world. Jesus is key in enlightening us and, I think in Gnosticism, his logos (his message) and his Sacrifice set our souls free as long as we can attain our own enlightenment. I think this really parallels Neo's sacrifice in order to allow humans leave the matrix once they achieve their own awareness.
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And there was. Perhaps it is significant of that?

Also, it is Sati's Purpose. At the start of revolutions, the reason she is running away is because she has no purpose. thus, making nice sunrises is a purpose. if you like that sortt of thin.g

Is everyone so sure that Sati's purpose is to make sunrises? Perhaps she could have made a it cloudy or rainy just as easily.

She might still have no purpose at all or perhaps she can make choices on a whim like human beings. Her response to why she made the sunrise was that she thought Neo would like it. This gives her an intuition that is far closer to human intuition than even the Oracle's. She could be the evolution of programs to a new type of program that lives for life's sake.

Another related observation, Rama-Kandra (Sati's father) manages "Power Plant Recycling." This is kind of the technical analog of Reincarnation (Recycling souls back into the matrix). He also gives Neo a spiel about Karma. I was trying to figure out if this gives any insight into Sati's purpose (both in the film and in the matrix). Any comments?

Sati shows that if you leave a prgoram or being exist-it will find its own purpose. Sati served no purpose in the machine world. Had she been deleted sje never would have found her purpose in the Matrix.

in addition, it may be Sati's mother, who is the true mother of the matrix as she works in extreme AI similiar to the way the architect describes the mother in Reloaded. Sati may be a sort of sibling to Neo if you look at it that way...

In Plato's The allegory of The Cave (see: matrix-explained.com...), you here that some people are trapped in a cave (the matrix) which shows shadows of the real world. One day one "inmate" is released, and he sees the fire (Zion) that project these shadowly images, and believes that to be the real world, "the desert of the real..." But after a while he finds the real world, "the world of ideas", which contains the source (!) of all things: a sun!

So my theory is that the sunrise represents Neos ascension into "the real world", and one day he might return to lead the others...

Here is food for thought...
the architect said that "those who wish to be freed, will be" but alas, no one knows that "the world" is fake, an illusion, a dreamworld - hence, another reason that there IS another matrix, inside the matrix.
if the architect was telling the truth, that means that morpheus, niobe, ghost, link, etc will wake up and find themselves in the REAL REAL world...

But in our everyday strivings, isn't there always a reality within a reality. How was your reality constructed and imposed upon you. How much of what you learnt as a child is the way you relate to others and your world daily. It is only when we start to peel back the layers of the onion that we discover how much we were carrying that was not who we truly are. If you look at an emerald in matrix, the conglomerate around it is made up of lots of different stratas and compounds. It is the gem in the middle that we try to reach, a little like the philosophers stone except in our case we go fishing for it, and we deal with our shadow daily, if we are brave enough. The gold in our shadow is just as important to find as the dark, because in this lost gold is the God part of us. Racism, sexism, just about all the ism's you can think of are part of our shadow. We all have a black or a white person in us, we all have masculine and feminine in us, we all have good and bad in us, we all have love and hate in us, we all have give and take in us. Tthe paradox is reached when we understand at root level that what is bad in the world is bad in us and vice versa, and that nothing will change for us individually or collectively until we begin to acknowledge and transform small story, until it becomes part of big story. None of this can come about till we are brave enough to go deep enough and touch the lost part of ourselves that deals with feelings and emotions, (what has been regarded as the inferior function), the feminine. It adds a whole new dimension to us and allows us to see with seeing eyes and become a knower of the known. The way to the masculine is also through the feminine. When this happens we can then begin to see how other people's realities are created for them, and how they begin to live within them, never questioning that their reality is not truth. From leading armies, to running corporations, to parenting, to teaching. It can't be done in a way that will bring about change and understanding without that part of us that we fear the most, our feeling part.

people are saying that the sunrise was to signify that sati was given a purpose

this is horse shit...we already know from reloadeds neo-oracle conversation that there is a programme to "govern the wind,the trees,sunrise and sunset"...

and if it was something as poxy and insignificant as to show that a programme was given a purpose then why would it be in the final scene of the final chapter of the entire matrix saga....


it is clearly to show that sati can change the matrix as she sees fit and there for signifies that she is the one

what a shit...

if sati is also a one, it will surely be an imbalance in the system, who is the -1 then....
[sati in m3 with seraph]"i'm scared"...on seeing the approaching smiths...
why the "black cat " , when matrix is upgraded/edited every time..?

[seraph to smith in m3]
" i've defeated you before..(something like that)"
when did he fight with smith..? did smith /agent smith disturb "the future "or oracle....

no...sati is not ALSO a "one"

sati is the only "one"

the story of " the one" was all a lie to lure the anomaly back to the source

the anomaly is the result of placing a piece of code into a human which is neccessary for the matrix to function properly...hence the architect tells neo that his life "is the remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix"..

this means that when the matrix was built,a calculation resulted in an unending number,the same as when you get 0.99999999.... on a calculator

the machines function like calculators and so were unable to round this number up in order for the calculation to exist in reality...so they insert this code into humans who have been rounding up numbers from time immemorial as a matter of common sense....

the result of doing this is a human who is exempt from many of the rules of the matrix ala neo and his predecessors

it seems the machines wrote the oracle programme who came up with the solution of luring the anomaly back to the source by using this prophecy

before this she tried agent programmes(this is why smith calls her mom...because she wrote the agents)they proved to be incapable of controlling the anomaly as they were still bound by the rules of the matrix

so by telling the rebels(ie mopheus etc)the prophecy of the one...they then free him and take him to the oracle who then tells him to go to the source(this is in reloaded in their conversation before the burly brawl)...the anomaly then goes to the source and is tricked by the architect into touching the source by the excuse "if you dont then humanity will be wiped out"....which is total crap...

the anomaly and the one are not the same thing...the only "one" is sati...she is the prophecy finally coming true and even the oracle couldnt forsee it...cause even she "cant see beyond the end"...meaning the and of the cycle of the matrix...sati power and significance is only revealed after the end of the 6th cycle of the matrix...

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and if it was something as poxy and insignificant as to show that a programme was given a purpose then why would it be in the final scene of the final chapter of the entire matrix saga.... it is clearly to show that sati can change the matrix as she sees fit and there for signifies that she is the one

Anomaly,

If Sati is "the One", why would they introduce her so late, explain so little about her,and make her so meaningless. The only thing she ever does is make that sunrise. By your own logic, if she were the One, there would be a lot more made about it than a Sunrise, even if it is the last scene of the movie. are you saying we should just take what the Oracle says as lies about Morpheus finding the One and Trinity loving the One. Niether Morpheus nor Trinity even meet Sati. Sure, the oracle's prophecy may have been a complete fabrication, but then why would it's predictions come true? Irony? Sati doesn't even end the war. The only criteria that she fits about being the One is that she can manipulate the Matrix. But so can Neo. And Neo also fits ALL the other criteria too.

I think that Sati is in fact more important than her small role portrays her to be. But I don't think she is the One. That would "clearly" be Neo. And I don't think that there is any evidence that the next One has even been found. In fact, I think it's safe to assume that he/she hasn't been found.

you should try looking up the meaning of the word sati...it means mindfulness...the state of conciousness after we look at something and before we recognise what it is...

another major factor that points to sati being the one is that aeraph looks at her as she runs off to play and says to the oracle....

"did you always know?"...to which the oracle replied

"no...no i didnt...but i believed...i believed"

to me this means that seraph is asking the oracle if she always knew that sati was the one....and the oracles reply was no because she couldnt see beyond the end...

there was a difference between neo and the other anomalies and this is why the oracle at first believed neo could well be the prophecy coming true...because of his love for trinity he changed the cyclical nature of the anomaly...

also...in enter the matrix,the oracle says that "the child is important" and will "change the future of both our world and your world forever"

to say that it is important to be responsible for the sunrise(which we already know a programme exists for this purpose from the neo-oracle conversation in reloaded)is just ridiculous...

the prohecy never states that the ending of the war,the freeing of the human race and the destruction of the matrix are connected

the prophecy states that the coming of the one would herald the destrustion of the matrix and the end of the war...

it does not say that the one will destroy the matrix or the one will end the war...it simply states that all these things will happen at the same time...

this is why i liked the ending of revolutions so much...it leaves massive unanswered questions related to the prohecy

did the war end...yes

was the matrix destroyed...no

are the human race free...no

so if neo is the one and he is no longer alive outside the matrix and arguably inside the matrix either...by your logic...how can he fullfill his purpose of the one and the prophecy...he cant...

we are even told in reloaded that the purpose of neo was never to fullfill the prophecy...it was simply to return to the source and reboot the matrix...the prohecy was simply the tool used by the machines through the oracle in order to get the anomaly to the source...

the machines never believed a false prophecy would ever come true...but at the and of revolutions...in the form of sati...it is beginning to

Self fulfilling prophecy, one would say.
We believe it and so eventually, over time it happens.

pointless. you are leading nowhere here.

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did the war end...yes was the matrix destroyed...no are the human race free...no

You've got some interesting ideas, anomaly. However, the Matrix was destroyed and then reset. And the human race was freed through the Architect's agreement:

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Oracle: What about the others? Architect: What others? Oracle: The ones that want out. Architect: Obviously, they will be freed.

Also, when Seraph asks "did you always know?" he could easily have been referring to Neo. They were talking about Neo in the previous sentence:

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Sati: Will we ever see him [Neo] again? Oracle: I suspect so. Someday. Seraph: Did you always know? Oracle: Oh no. No, I didn't. But I believed. I believed.

This also alludes back to the Oracle saying that Neo "was making a believer" out of her.

My biggest point is this. Put yourself in the scriptwriter's place. You have centered the whole movie around implying that Neo is the One. But you want to make a twist, and have some otherwise insignificant little girl actually be the One. How do you write that in? Do you introduce her in the third movie in some side plot? Make some vague reference to her importance in a video game? Have the one proof that she is the One by making an innocent sunrise in honor of Neo? Or do you show her fulfilling the various aspects of the prophecy? Show some kind of display or several displays of her enormous power or mental control of the Matrix? To me, it would be inconceivable to introduce the One this way. It would be one of the worst pieces of writing in movie history. I agree that it would have been interesting for Sati to have been the One, possibly. But it would have to be more apparent. It is too much to ask viewers to take such a giant leap with so little to go on.

When Seraph asks The Oracle "did you always know" I think he is talking about Neo being able to end the war. And as for Sati asking "Will we ever see Neo again" The Oracle "I suspect so, someday" I think there will be another movie.