»Understanding Revolutions (Spoilers)«

just got back from seeing Revolutions. I really can't figure out what the hell i just saw. there's so much i don't understand. i guess i was just waiting for some big twist, some huge explanation, and i got none. i just don't understand. what was the deal with the oracle talking to the architect at the end? i wasn't really paying attention enough to understand. what was said, and what does that mean. and i heard some kids at the theater saying that the big giant head that neo talks to (the big machine) was the architect. i don't know. could somebody just explain to me what i just saw. just sum up what we found out in that movie.

Its funny you dont understand it. The movie was SWEET, it was simple and to the point.

Heres a hint. The movie is about what it was ALWAYS about. THE ONE. The LIFE and PURPOSE of the one. IT explains EVERYTHING you need to know about that. I know people didnt like it, but i think its because we overanalyzed the movie so much we lost track of what the first movie was all about THE ONE. This movie was cool

It is about NEO's purpose. What was his purpose in the first movie. To free people from the Matrix. He then finds out his purpose was to reload the matrix. Finally he realises FOR HIMSELF his OWN purpose, not what he was told. His purpose was to bring BALANCE. When Smith was destroyed he brought ballance to the matrix. After this is done the purpose of the one is fulfilled, he isnt needed, for now and he Trancends the matrix. He leaves it, he dies.

Yeah i think i had trouble understanding it because it was simple and to the point, and i kept expecting some complex explanation. Anyway, this post really helped me understand some things a little better.

The post was by
"THE RAVEN NEEDLE"
in the
[after Revolutions] More Matrix theories, More Matrix explanations
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"It was said in the first Matrix that the Oracle made a prophecy that the One's coming would end the war and bring freedom to our people. In reloaded the Architect showed Neo that this prophecy was just another system of control and that the One was never meant to end anything. This theory makes sense, but i incorrect. Despite the prophecy being another system of control, it was always true. The problem is, the idea of it being a system of control and nothing mroe was made believable because everyone thought the room with the Architect in Reloaded was the source - IT WASN'T. This, instead, was just another oracle-like meeting that dictated the future. Neo chose the OTHER DOOR leading to the destruction of the matrix as opposed to teh other leading to the source. if he had chose the source like the other 5 Ones the matrix would have been reloaded and all this confusion begun once again. instead he chose the destruction of the matrix, but this still lead to the source, only this time going to the source would mean the end of the war once and for all - just like the oracle said. also, the humans were released from the matrix by default so the Architect said at the end and not killed like he said in reloaded. when Neo chose the destruction of the matrix, it was destroyed and replaced by a scenic view of new york or whichever city it was and a beautiful sunrise." - The Raven Needle

but nevertheless I have some questions: the merovingian said he survived neo´s predecesors...well why didn´t he and neo had their fight? and what is the deal with the architect's question "for how long do you think this peace will be on? or sometihng like that, i don't remember....and the machines accepted the deal, although that implies the people of zion will continue to get people out of the matrix?

Please if somebody could give some answers [/img]

i've got another one... how the hell the oracle is supposed to see neo in the future? (that was what she said in the end)

david21 wrote:

The merovingian said he survived neo´s predecesors...well why didn´t he and neo had their fight?

Just because the Merovingian survived the previous Ones doesn't mean he fought them. He may have simply ran form them. Survival doesn't imply a battle.

david21 wrote:

and what is the deal with the architect's question "for how long do you think this peace will be on? [...] and the machines accepted the deal, although that implies the people of zion will continue to get people out of the matrix?

The machines could not have defeated the Smith virus, so they made a deal with Neo (through the Architect). The Architect is very computer-like, and given the history of humankind, he doesn't expect the peace to last. The Oracle on the other hand, has more human qualities, i.e. she shows hope and belief.

Yes, the people of Zion will continue to free humans... that was part of the deal. Humans plugged into the Matrix will be given a choice: to stay within the Matrix, or face reality.

david21 wrote:

how the hell the oracle is supposed to see neo in the future? (that was what she said in the end)

You seem to be assuming Neo is dead. All we see in the end is his unconscious body being hauled away by the big giant head, on a platform. And even if Neo is dead, he came back from the dead once before... plus his powers have grown considerably since then, so who knows what else he's capable of?

I hope this helps...

i thought about it and i really can't assume that neo is dead...after all HE IS THE ONE...but another thing comes to my mind: Who could be responsible for a new war...humans trying to beat the machines or the machines seeking for total domination?

and another thing...what if a new ONE emerges from the matrix, what is going to be HIS destiny?

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i thought about it and i really can't assume that neo is dead

i guess there is no way to tell if neo is accualy dead, and if he will come back. death doesent seem to stop anyone in the matrix. but if neo is dead and comes back, whats to say trinity and smith cant be brought back like they were before. all three of theese characters died, but they'v all come back. however, my idea is that there all dead for good. i think thiis cuz, not only is this part three of a trilogy, but when trinity dies, she is not resurected, i think this symbolises that no of them will be.

Marc-E-Marc wrote:

...Yes, the people of Zion will continue to free humans... that was part of the deal. Humans plugged into the Matrix will be given a choice: to stay within the Matrix, or face reality...

All the humans plugged to the Matrix died in the end. Sorry if this is redundant as I have posted it before. Look for my post here matrix-explained.com...

ok it is not surprising that most ppl dont understand, but for the last time...IT IS ABOUT THE BIBLE! go to the thread i created to find more.

MeLLo wrote:

i guess i was just waiting for some big twist, some huge explanation, and i got none.

You've been corrupted by matrix forums.

the movies are about Neo, birth, life, death. thats simply it, there are alot of other things going on, but the more i thought about it the more i became confused. the game explains alot inbetween the 2nd and 3rd movie (eg the oracles new body) but the 3 movies are about Neo. i agree we are all over analysing it[/quote]

I agree with most posts here, but remember that the machines need us, the human crops anyway… ALL the humans will NOT be freed. When the Oracle asked the Architect if the others would be released that didn't mean everyone in the matrix. Without us they have NO energy.

knnknn wrote:

MeLLo wrote: i guess i was just waiting for some big twist, some huge explanation, and i got none. You've been corrupted by matrix forums.

He was corrupted by the Wachowskis and their false promises, like I was.

Hey People ,

If you really want to know the plot twist... (It's not about the One, and analysis really is necessary... Give the brothers a little credit ).

Go to My post on Discussing about the Matrix (After watching it). I put a nice post there answering questions.

Thanks,

Shidoshi100

Many have mentioned religious and biblical parallels...well heres a take on that...
When Jesus came, folks who were expecting a savior/messiah, thought that the role of the messiah was to rescue or deliver the Jewish people from the domination and rule of the Romans. Jesus did not do that and there was major disappointment. A bit how I felt when Neo's sacrifice did not deliver all the humans from control of the machines. That's what I thought the One was going to do. What Jesus DID do was show people the truth of what really mattered, and that physical enslavement will always be a part of this world, but a person's spiritual life in such a world can set them free. .. with belief in hope, LOVE, and free will as the keys. Neo's sacrifice set up a truce wherein those in the Matrix who wished to, could be released from it...but it is still each ones choice. The big salvation is that he made it so people could have a choice.

I was really unhappy and mad that the matrix wasnt destroyed and humanity released from the pods until I began thinking about this particular religious parallel. Now I guess I can stomach it.