»Did you like Matrix Revolutions?«

El Uno wrote:

Cause it left to many things unaswered and made no sense.

So the bible and Nostradamus suck, too?

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Revolutions sucked for the same reason you were getting ready to tell me this post was stupid. Cause it left to many things unaswered and made no sense.

HAHAHA!HAHAH!HAHA!

that was GREAT!

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Personally I was disappointed. And then after the initial disappointment, I was upset with myself for not liking it.. because I had been such a huge Matrix fan after the first two. But the third movie just didn't do it for me like the first two did. Sure, the visuals were amazing and I was loving it as I watched it.. but I didn't walk away thinking like I did with the other two.

I felt the same way TOO. WHOAH. thats scary.

Those who hated Revolutions realized that there is nothing to understand.

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The ending was vague for the sake of vagueness, forcing people to "read into it" so to speak. Though vagueness can provoke thought, it does not make the movie good. A clear sense of direction would have helped the movie tremendously.

I agree partly, but there are some people (who understand what the wachoski brothers were "trying" to convey) that still dont like it.

Not EVERYONE who hates it hates it for that reason.

There are so many reasons why it was bad, thats just a brown microscopic sprinkle on the top of the pile of crap that the m3 turned out to be.

heres one:

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Ah. Revolutions had it's dissapointments. But it was still Okay. The last fight scene between Neo and Smith could've been better.

This is for you people who think that the reason they liked the matrix was BECAUSE it left so many questions unanswerd.
- People goto the movies, drink beer, do drugs, read books, and any other form of entertainment because it is a form of escape.

An escape from reality, its an escape from the problems of the world.

The argument is that the reason why the revolutions is so great is because it was Real, and it follows all the lines of philosohpy and religion.

Again. i dont want to be reminded that someday i am gonna die, that even someday the love of my life is gonna die. That someday i could even go blind. "death comes for us."-morpheus.

I goto the movies to be entertained, NOT to be reminded on how LIFE SUCKS!


- I wish i loved the matrix revolutions, because then i could love ALL movies!

How?
Just walk out of every movie right before they end.
That way ill be able to make up MY OWN ending. I wont know wheter the hero lived or died, or if the bad or good guys won.

Ill be able to use my Imagination, and call everyone else stupid who doesnt do it because it makes movies better.

I wish i could just look at a fishbowl and be entertained for HOURS!

To say that people who dont like the revolutions "dont get it" is suggesting that they are too stupid to follow the obvious forshadowing that the 2nd one showed.

I for one told TONS of people how the 3rd one was going to end MONTHS before it even came out. they said " whoah, you were right."
-it was like i had read the script already-
(But the truth of the matter is i knew because i researched the W-brothers and their beliefs and i knew they would transpose their message in the 3rd one since the first 2 didnt have a the clear message that surrounded their beliefs.)
The only reason i went to the 3rd movies opening *the first showing btw* was in hopes that i was wrong.

People should just come out and admit the ONLY reason why they liked it was BECAUSE it was THE MATRIX and thats ALL.

I thought Revolutions was great until the ending. It was very anti-climatic. I could've dealt with Neo and Trinaty dying if there was a little more of an exciting ending, instead of some guy yelling "It's Over". But that's just me.

But maybe they wanted to leave it open for more movies.

NEO LIVES!

Agent Dalton wrote:

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NEO LIVES!

That is good news....Because if Neo lives, then so does SMITH!...

INCREDIBLE, THE AMOUNT OF DEPTH IN THIS MOVIE, THE QUALITY OF EFFECTS, THE FIGHT SCENES, THE CHASE SCENES, THE PLOT LINE AND STORY ARC WERE TREMENDOUS AND AWESOME.

THERE IS ONLY ONE COMPLAINT I CAN THINK OF,

SHUT UP AND DIE TRINITY, EVEN IF YOU FAST FORWARD HER DEATH ON BOOTLEG, IT TAKES A WHILE. HURRY UP AND SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY AND CROAK BIATCH!

Sumesh wrote:

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SHUT UP AND DIE TRINITY, EVEN IF YOU FAST FORWARD HER DEATH ON BOOTLEG, IT TAKES A WHILE. HURRY UP AND SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY AND CROAK BIATCH!

Now, that was damn nasty. Trinity was Neos true love, how would you like someone to say this about your true love, as she was slowly and painfully dying, impaled ? Hmmmm? Yeah, I thought as much...

I've heard people say that the ending to the new Return Of The King movie needed to be that long in order to be truly finished properly.

Well I thought the last 30 minutes of that movie stank to hell and it should have been stopped at the moment where they escape from the volcano with the Eagles.

The far superior Matrix trilogy was an original story rather than a horrific butchering of a classic novel. It finished off the story with perhaps a slightly naff ending, since the sunrise with the orchestral music didn't quite set the tone as well as it could. However, all sins were forgiven after I saw the sickening drivel at the end of ROTK.

The matrix movies are superb and if were any justice they'd be getting the rave reviews while critics quelled Tolkein's incessant grave-turning by revealing Peter Jacksons movies for the insult that they are.

c'mon she did take her sweet a$$ time to 'pass on,' if that language suits you better. the death and resurection in reloaded was much more dramatic and heartwarming than the revolutions death, which did Drag on.

Quite frankly Trinity's near-death scene in Reloaded was spoilt by Neo's horrific line: "I love you too goddamn much". Trinity's speech in Revolutions was the least corny thing in that movie and the most moving scene in the entire trilogy. We all cared so much about Trinity and I don't know about any hard-hearted people there may be reading this, but I was shocked by her death.

The king of Rohan's death in ROTK on the other hand seemed to drag on and while it didn't take quite as long as Trinity's death it wasn't the only death I had to sit through in that movie where I could feel absolutely nothing for the character. I never got a chance in the movies to feel particularly attached to either Theodin or his daugter so while they are crying their eyes out I felt rather out of place.

Give me the matrix any day. And put the LOTR movies down the toilet where Tolkein would have wanted them....

The scene where Zee commits herself to making shells and argues with Dozer's widow is more heartwarming, because of the will to go in to a situation where the chance of survival is soooo small, for the simple hope of seeing her loved one again. The courage in Zee is intense. As far as Trinity is concerned, I felt more passion in Club Hell when she puts herself and everyone else at a gamble in possibly one of if not the best 'Mexican Standoffs,' ever...."What's it going to be Merv?" If any value of heart twisting emotion can be taken from the Trinity death scene it comes from Neo, who is far easier to relate to than Trinity.

It makes you think, much like 21 grams (which I watched tonight and will recommed fully!). 21 grams also doesn't answer all the questions and this isn't bad either.

What 21 grams has which the matrix revolutions doesn't is great acting and dialogue.


Blaming matrix revolutions for not answering all the questions for you and not making complete sense on your first watch is criticising its greatest strength. What is special about the matrix is the 'mystery'. The mystery of the matrix is what puts it above the ordinary moderately acted blockbusters. The mystery of the matrix is what makes it special and keeps it from being a hollow pop-trash moneymaker like the LOTRs movies.

The Last Exile wrote:

i hate when people blow on the matrix. not only do you have to be smart in order to understand the matrix movies, you also need to know, philosophy, metaphysics and religion. once you understand the full extent of the matrix story, you then see why the matrix is not only visualy appealing, but also mentaly pleasing. the matrix series are the most brilliant movies made so far in history. in my opinion. i personly hate it when people said that the second one, for instance, was un-original.... HELLO ? PEOPLE! its a sequal! its supposed to follow the story.... people like that annoy me... anyway.... getting back on topic. m3 in my opinion is as good as the second one in every detail. but of course... i think the second matrix out classes the first one, not by much, but in general. i mean, obviously the first one was a mildstone in the movie industry but if the story of the second one was understood completely, then you would see how much better it is. all people who know me in real life and people i met online do not doubt my exctencive knowlage on the structure of the movies, thier stories and their back-stories. there has never been a time when i have not answered a question that was given to me. i hope to stay with this forum for a very long time and move up in its ranks i realize this should have gone in the introduction topic but once i get started.... well.... lol

Ok Matrix worshipers calm down. I liked the Matrix concept from the beginning. Hell I own everything I can get my hands on pertaining to it.

However, I was NOT and cannot be impressed with the way the Wacho. Bros. "ended" this trilogy...and BTW it's not really a trilogy because the Bros. themselves said that to fully understand the Matrix concept then you need to consider Annimatrix and the Enter The Matrix games and so forth. So let me translate that for you...you must spend more money and make them richer if you want to know more of where THEY are coming from.

You see I've read alot of posts from Matrix worshipers about what "this" means and what "that" means but how the hell do you know? The Wacho Bros. are the only ones who know what THEY mean and they refuse to be interviewed in depthly on the topic...and why is that? Perhaps it's because THEY don't even understand their own plot. hahaha.

Perhaps they buried themselves so far in the theological, rhetorical, and philisophical bull crap that they're too confused now.


It probabally reached the point that they just said "oh fook it....since we can't impress them with wisdom then let's dazzle them with bull sh*t."

My true feelings regarding there intentions is proven in many forums across the net. I think that when it came to what the true meaning of closure is and what the Matrix is all about I think this line from the surmizes perfectly...."you'll just have to make up your own damn mind."


Just one of the dumb asses who expected more from two bros. that were capable of delivering a far better package.


Ron

Um... your quote says that it is by James Orwell. I don't know who that is but the writer of Animal Farm was George Orwell (he wouldn't have relatives with the same surname as it was a pen name). Are you sure that quote comes from Animal Farm?

Fatpie42 wrote:

Um... your quote says that it is by James Orwell. I don't know who that is but the writer of Animal Farm was George Orwell (he wouldn't have relatives with the same surname as it was a pen name). Are you sure that quote comes from Animal Farm?

hm just curious as to whom you are talking to with this statement...I must have missed it.

Oh well Take Care


Ron

The First movie was great...pure genius...the second movie was a little bit to much hollywood for me..but it had its moments. Number three was all about answers and conclusions...questions that matrix 2 raised and you wanted answeres or some explanation from the 3 movie but what did you get?....nada...Zip..ZERO!...Instead they raise more questions....but the Matrix Trilogy is of course brilliant...I mean, there are a lot of people here that thought Matrix Rev. sucked but still they go to the internet and talk about it....

...I bet when some people saw ''Dude where's my car'' and thought...''Wow...this movie sucks'' they didnt go to the internet and discuss it....

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Ah. Revolutions had it's dissapointments. But it was still Okay. The last fight scene between Neo and Smith could've been better.

Yes, I was sorta hoping they would go Super Saiyan, but it just didn't happen.

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I do not believe that you need to be smart to "get" the Matrix. I also do not believe that having a wide understanding of Religeon, Metaphysics, Philosophy, or whatever would make one enjoy it more. Although it might.

Might? Stop kidding yourself. Knowledge is an illusion, AN ILLUSION.

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So the bible and Nostradamus suck, too?

Um, yes.

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Now, that was damn nasty. Trinity was Neos true love, how would you like someone to say this about your true love, as she was slowly and painfully dying, impaled by a Sentinel ? Hmmmm? Yeah, I thought as much...

Honestly, I wanted the bitch to die, too. Yes, Trinity is Neo's true love, BUT not mine. Let's keep it like that. MY true love does not compare to a character on a movie screen. I even clapped when I watched Bambi's mother get shot and die a horrible, well-deserved death. SO SUE ME.

...By the way, nice name. HOWEVER, you are a disgrace to the Smiths. You're suppose to be EVIL. EEEEVVVVIIL.

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Those who hated Revolutions or thought the others where better merely didn't understand it. All those people who think "Ya Mum" jokes are funny.

I think you are funny.

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I mean, there are a lot of people here that thought Matrix Rev. sucked but still they go to the internet and talk about it....

A lot of people thought William Hung sucked, too. Look at him now, the coolest thing since canned bread.

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...I bet when some people saw ''Dude where's my car'' and thought...''Wow...this movie sucks'' they didnt go to the internet and discuss it....

talkloud.net...

Oh the sweet joy in quoting people.

The_Matrix_Terminated wrote:

Fatpie42 wrote: Um... your quote says that it is by James Orwell. I don't know who that is but the writer of Animal Farm was George Orwell (he wouldn't have relatives with the same surname as it was a pen name). Are you sure that quote comes from Animal Farm? hm just curious as to whom you are talking to with this statement...I must have missed it. Oh well Take Care Ron

Well, whoever said it seems to have had their post deleted *shrugs*. Someone was pointing out that the matrix is similar to nineteen eighty-four in some ways, and this is very true. it's been said quite often though it was a bit off topic - maybe it was a spam merchant?

ViperGTS wrote:

I was a bit disappointed with M3. Should have been 3 hours long.... Should have answered more questions.... Should have had more NEO!

I was a bit disappointed with M3.

Should have been 3 hours long....

Should have answered more questions....

Should have had MORE AGENT SMITH!

Nah, actually I wasn't dissappointed with M3. I loved it. That final showdown between Smith and Mr. Anderson totally captivated me. I was totally entranced by the whole thingI I think that the song Neodammerung played during the fight scene had a lot to do with that, it is absolutely amazing.

The presence of millions of Smiths () had me squeeling in delight as he is my absolute favourite character. I just wished he would have won against Neo


-Demile

it was tizight!

Same, i loved revolutions. If you know the words to neodammerung, you can see that the music isnt just there to sound good. This is particularly relevant as Neo is taken away by the machine after super burly brawl. The song here is Why mr Anderson i think, but the first verse of neodammerung is used- asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, myrtor mamyrtam gamya (i think i spelled it right) translates as [/i] from dillusion lead me to truth, from darkness lead me to light, from death lead me to immortality. Im not sure, but from death lead me to immortality-what could this mean....perhaps suggesting he is, in fact not dead (i believe). Any takes on this? [/i]

In comparison with M1 and M2, M3 really sucked. The Details wheren't very special, and the battle was the main thing. But which scenes I liked most in the M3 where the fighting scenes between Smith and Neo.

Personally, I thought there were WAY too many gaps that my puniy, insignificant mind couldn't handle. OUCH! Yep, It definitely sucked, but it had a clear ending no doubt [neo dying].

There was one FATAL flaw in Revolutions.

Lack of a Rage song at the end.

Amen to that LOTV